Can't see other computers in Workgroup on Windows 10 computer

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  1. KRL
    Posts : 70
    Windows 10
       #51

    Open the services menu by clicking start and then clicking RUN and typing 'services.msc' and pressing enter.


    Look for the following services in the list:

    · DNS Client
    · Function Discovery Provider Host
    · Function Discovery Resource Publication
    · Peer Networking Grouping
    · HomeGroup Provider
    · HomeGroup Listener
    · SSDP Discovery
    · UPnP Device Host

    Make sure they are set to AUTOMATIC START instead of MANUAL.

    Go down the list one by one and even if they are running do a mouse right click and SELECT "RESTART".

    On the ones that are showing a blank and not running right click and SELECT "START".

    That's all I did and all 3 Laptops are back in the Networking Panel and in the Homegroup WORKGROUP.
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  2. Posts : 16
    Win 10 Pro x64
       #52

    I can confirm this bug happens with a fresh install from the media creation tool (1511 build 10586 is back up again). I've done both the upgrade from an earlier WIN10 install and then a clean install on the same PC (after reformatting the drive). Both methods have this network issue. I played around with restarting the services that KRL listed and was able to access one of my WIN 8.1 machines but I can't get to all the other WIN10 machines with the 1511 update. I'll try setting the services to automatic on all of them (not sure why that's needed if all the services were running anyway).
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  3. Posts : 44
    Tech Preview
       #53

    Reinstall network devices using netcfg –d command


    After trying just about everything I could find to fix networking since 1511 update I found a help page at Microsoft.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...nection-issues

    Scroll down to step 6. Reinstall network devices using netcfg –d command

    Notice that you must be running the 1511 update.

    It helped with one of my computers, but the others are still network only when they feel like it.
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  4. KRL
    Posts : 70
    Windows 10
       #54

    geobrick said:
    I can confirm this bug happens with a fresh install from the media creation tool (1511 build 10586 is back up again). I've done both the upgrade from an earlier WIN10 install and then a clean install on the same PC (after reformatting the drive). Both methods have this network issue. I played around with restarting the services that KRL listed and was able to access one of my WIN 8.1 machines but I can't get to all the other WIN10 machines with the 1511 update. I'll try setting the services to automatic on all of them (not sure why that's needed if all the services were running anyway).
    I've found you have to turn on the PC which was the creator of the Homegroup FIRST while the others are turned off. Then turn on the others one by one in sequence. For some reason that fills the Homegroup panel correctly with every PC on the Network showing.
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  5. Posts : 1,937
    win 10 Insider
       #55

    See here. Cannot connect to CIFS / SMB / Samba Network Shares Shared Folders in Windows 10 after update 1511/10586

    Looks like a SMB version problem. The reason it sometimes works is probably because you are working on the master browser.
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  6. Posts : 29
    windows 10
       #56

    KRL said:
    Open the services menu by clicking start and then clicking RUN and typing 'services.msc' and pressing enter.


    Look for the following services in the list:

    · DNS Client
    · Function Discovery Provider Host
    · Function Discovery Resource Publication
    · Peer Networking Grouping
    · HomeGroup Provider
    · HomeGroup Listener
    · SSDP Discovery
    · UPnP Device Host

    Make sure they are set to AUTOMATIC START instead of MANUAL.

    Go down the list one by one and even if they are running do a mouse right click and SELECT "RESTART".

    On the ones that are showing a blank and not running right click and SELECT "START".

    That's all I did and all 3 Laptops are back in the Networking Panel and in the Homegroup WORKGROUP.
    I just tried that on one pc it allows me to see the pc and shared folders but now I don't have permission to access them.
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  7. Posts : 16
    Win 10 Pro x64
       #57

    As a follow-up to my last email. I'm not sure if it's completely true what I said about the problem existing on a fresh install of 1511.

    On an upgraded PC, I restarted the services above (all running anyway) but never changed them to "automatic". I've restarted since then. When I use that PC (upgraded from the original WIN 10 to 1511) to access another upgraded PC on the network (and it actually lets me see and open the user folder), I'm seeing folders that don't seem typical to me. I see the folder with the user's name I'm also seeing a hidden folder called "default" but then, I see another folder called "default.migrated". I don't see the "public" folder. It seems maybe we're being pointed at the old folders that got migrated during the upgrade to 1511 (just a guess).

    However when I use an upgraded computer to look at the PC with the fresh install, it is seeing all the shared public files. So the PC with the fresh install seems OK even though it can't see the files on the computers that have the 1511 upgrade (I have 2 upgraded to 1511, one with a fresh install of 1511 and one WIN8.1 machine). I can see both the WIN8.1 and the Fresh install of 1511 PCs from an upgraded PC but not vice versa.

    This is a strange issue and lots of us have it.
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  8. Posts : 29
    windows 10
       #58

    One thing for sure now I have 0 network out of 4 PCs some they can see but nothing has permission even though it all has permission which renders win 10 network completely useless, MS really screwed the pooch on this one I can't believe how crappy it's been since release, I guess beta testing is if the pc turns on MS passes the os and goes into production. I just reset the pc tonight too and still no meaningful contact with the other towers it's like the network imploded on its' self and did the final death roll.
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  9. Posts : 16
    Win 10 Pro x64
       #59

    Figured it out (at least for me)


    It's the advanced sharing settings under "All networks". Apparently "public folder sharing" under "All Networks" gets set to off. Turn it back on for the PCs that have been upgraded.

    Go to 'Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced sharing settings' then expand the "All Networks" section and select "Turn on sharing so anyone with network access can read and write files in the public folders"

    Let me know if it works for you.
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  10. KRL
    Posts : 70
    Windows 10
       #60

    geobrick said:
    It's the advanced sharing settings under "All networks". Apparently "public folder sharing" under "All Networks" gets set to off. Turn it back on for the PCs that have been upgraded.

    Go to 'Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced sharing settings' then expand the "All Networks" section and select "Turn on sharing so anyone with network access can read and write files in the public folders"

    Let me know if it works for you.
    Hi Geobrick,

    Thank you!!! You are right I just checked and the update from a few days ago reset a couple of my sharing settings again.

    So it seems with every update that they must be trying to fix this with, they muck it up by changing settings that were working back to default. What a pain we have to go through all these hoops now every update.
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