Windows 10: Super frustrated with Windows 10 - Home Networking!!

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  1.    20 Dec 2016 #1

    Super frustrated with Windows 10 - Home Networking!!

    I've been running up against problems with Windows networking most of my adult life (I'm 40), but this is another level of strange. I will cut right to the chase. I have a home network with a one word workgroup, and all computers are a part of it. I have network discovery and file sharing turned on, on all of these computers. 2 of my 3 computers are able to share files with each other, a 3rd is not. I've gone over all the settings. I've enabled NetBIOS. My nic drivers are updated to latest and greatest. I plug in the IP address of my desktop followed by a D$, and I get prompted for username/password. I think, great!! now maybe we are in business!! No joy though. It won't take.

    Here are some potentially important factors.

    Number 1 - The computer I am trying to connect from is a laptop which is wireless, where-as my other computers that are working, are wired on the network. --- I had this same problem at a friends clinic a few months ago, with a printer that was set up wireless on the network. Windows 10 computers kept losing their connections to it. I would reset everything and rebuild it up from scratch. It would work for a week, and then I would get a call that it wasn't working again. I eventually fixed it by running a cable and setting the printer up on the network via Ethernet. --- However, there was still one machine at the clinic that was wireless, and try as I might, I could not get it to connect to this printer. They determined it wasn't really important, so we let that one go. Every other machine that was wired in, could print just fine. The wireless router here was a 300 dollar Asus, top of the line. I happen to have a high end Asus - RT-AC68U. Not the same router, but pretty close, which is why I mention it.

    Number 2 - The username on my desktops is identical - It's my email address at Hotmail, along with my password. This is because Microsoft required it if I want to use the store, and at the end of the day I no longer have a problem using my email as my username, however unnatural that still might feel, provided it works.. My daughters laptop (the one that can't connect), uses her email address as username which is of course different than mine. When I connect direct to the IP of my desktop, and I plug in my email/password to access it, it doesn't take. I get "access denied" and it comes right back to prompt.

    I will add, that I am actually really starting to like Windows 10, especially on my daughters new laptop. She has an Acer spin 7 which has a gorgeous touchscreen. I find myself really liking the way this thing works, and wishing I had a nice wireless windows 10 touchscreen laptop like this myself. Alas, the kids get all the good stuff, cuz they have to write important papers for school...

    That's about it really. Any help greatly appreciated!!
    Last edited by musiclover7; 20 Dec 2016 at 15:47.
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  2.    20 Dec 2016 #2

    Any share with $ is a hidden share for admin only if your using wireless by default most routers have user isolation set this means on wireless you can connect to the Internet but not local network it's set if anyone breaks into the network they can't gain access to local PC have you checked the router for this setting?
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  3.    20 Dec 2016 #3

    I get the same when connecting without adding the dollar sign, and I have never had any problem connecting this way in the past.

    No isolation configured on the router. It is set up as an access point as it is not my primary router, though it is the only wireless router in my home network. It lives at, while my primary router lives at .1

    AP isolation is disabled. All devices are on same subnet.
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  4.    20 Dec 2016 #4

    run this does it see all the network and which pc is master browser? NetBScanner - NetBIOS scanner
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  5.    20 Dec 2016 #5

    I believe the user account is your issue. On the computer that you want to connect to D$ create a new "LOCAL" account and assign it a password and make sure it has admin rights. Then try to connect to this share from the wireless laptop, and when it prompts you for a login use the new user account as follows (minus the quotes") "computername\username" and then put the password in the password field. Let me know if this works.
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  6.    21 Dec 2016 #6

    Several PC's are detected as master browser, as is the one that I am trying to access. If I click on network in file browser, none of the machines show up. The only way I can get to login prompt is to plug the ip into the address bar.

    I don't think it's the user account. I tried the opposite before on a different machine and was unable to access the computer until I switched to the Microsoft account.
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       21 Dec 2016 #7

    The C$ administrative share has been deemed to be a security risk in the past few years and so Microsoft has in it's wisdom added restrictions to the access possibilities. This also applies to other root shares if you have them.

    Try setting up your shares a level down and see if this improves matters basically C$ can be flaky to say the least but share C:\folder and it should work fine
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  8.    21 Dec 2016 #8

    That doesn't explain why I can access just fine from one computer on the wired network, but not from another on wireless. C is not shared, but the rest of my drives are, and that is the way I want them. I'd rather not take the time to share every folder after root if I don't have to, and given that it works fine on wired, just not from wireless...?

    I can also access these shares fine from my Android phones, using the email address user account. Very strange.
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  9.    24 Dec 2016 #9

    On your daughters laptop open Programs and Features, click on Turn Windows features on or off. Wait for the resulting windows to populate then scroll down the list and look for SMB 1.0/CIFS file sharing support. If that entry does not have a check mark click on the box next to it. Then click Ok at the bottom of the screen.

    Restart the computer for the changes to take effect. Can you now see your other networked computers in File Explorer?
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  10.    25 Dec 2016 #10

    Darn. I thought maybe you were onto the solution there. Unfortunately, that add on was already installed.
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