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  1. Joined : Jan 2015
    Posts : 99
    xp w7 w8.1 linux
       18 May 2015 #1

    Metered Broadband Thoughts


    This does not apply to myself or I suspect many others of this forum having unlimited usage -
    but what would be the effect on Windows 10 Home users the bulk of whom have a standard
    low cost package. These often have quite limited monthly download allowances.
    Forced updates, apps running online with advertising thrown in as as a free extra, starting automatically in the start screen. Then there is one drive which will appeal for automatic backup etc.
    Those I am aware of send probably 10 emails a month, buy a couple of items on Amazon and check friends on Facebook. Little or no streaming services are used.
    MS seem to have a mental block about the volume of high speed unlimited connections that truly exist.

    Is this worth further discussion.
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  2. Joined : Jul 2014
    UK
    Posts : 16,465
    Windows 10
       18 May 2015 #2

    this also applies to people with slow BB

    I have unlimited, but due to the speed of it, the things you mention are a pain in the wotsit
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  3. Joined : Aug 2014
    Forever West
    Posts : 2,574
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint
       18 May 2015 #3

    The users of Smart Phones on the cell services in my area and those using the cell service hot spots for their computer do have a monthly data download limit, could be 1GB [my wife's], 3GB or 10GB. It's real easy to exceed the limit using online storage sites, especially when backing up a computer to the cloud.
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  4. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,923
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       18 May 2015 #4

    besb said: View Post
    This does not apply to myself or I suspect many others of this forum having unlimited usage -
    but what would be the effect on Windows 10 Home users the bulk of whom have a standard
    low cost package. These often have quite limited monthly download allowances.
    Forced updates, apps running online with advertising thrown in as as a free extra, starting automatically in the start screen. Then there is one drive which will appeal for automatic backup etc.
    That's why Microsoft put a switch in devices for MBB and also in network for metered connections. If you explore a little in settings app you'll find them in both 8 & 10.
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  5. Joined : Sep 2014
    DFW Area
    Posts : 374
    Windows 8&10
       18 May 2015 #5

    Microsoft has had suggestions for years to give an Ethernet connection the ability to be considered as Metered. If you think about it, if you are running an ISP which does charge you for extra usage, whether your computer is running a Wireless or Wired connection, that usage will still be counted.

    I certainly understand the reason for metering a 3G or 4G connection, but why not at least have the ability to meter all of them.

    By the way, I just noticed the Data Usage listing which does show WiFi and LAN usage. The Storage Settings on that same page may be useful to some folks.
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  6. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,923
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       18 May 2015 #6

    Saltgrass said: View Post
    .

    By the way, I just noticed the Data Usage listing which does show WiFi and LAN usage. The Storage Settings on that same page may be useful to some folks.
    I use for my Vodafone MBB. One just needs to remember to reset it.
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  7.    24 May 2015 #7

    Hi there

    Sometimes even on Metered connections you might get FREE unlimited between say 23.00 and 07.00 or something similar. I haven't had a metered connection for years so I'm not sure -- but in the days of HD and soon 4000K multi-media and all sorts of streaming services metered connections should really go "The way of the Dodo". A 4000K movie would eat up your 1GB allowance with only a SMALL FRACTION of it being downloaded.

    While some rural areas might have trouble in providing fast cabled broadband there really is NO excuse these days NOT to provide unlimited broadband. It's part of 21st century like electricity etc.

    As for updates etc on slow broadband connections -- if Ms used say something like Bittorrent to supply updates a lot of people would certainly benefit. There's nothing wrong in using torrent delivery for LEGAL software and this can run nicely at night etc for those with slow broadband without killing the rest of the time they might want to use the internet while downloading.

    Consumer power can work wonders -- if your provider doesn't give unlimited broadband then switch and if not possible get involved in some of those consumer action groups. Even HUGE companies react once the "Dollar power" is felt.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,923
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       24 May 2015 #8

    Consumer power can work wonders -- if your provider doesn't give unlimited broadband then switch and if not possible get involved in some of those consumer action groups. Even HUGE companies react once the "Dollar power" is felt.
    Jimbo, in larger countries where the Conglomerates actually run things and not the government, two words: No chance!
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  9. Joined : Nov 2013
    Land of 10,000 lakes
    Posts : 10,346
    W10 Pro, W10 Home
       24 May 2015 #9

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Jimbo, in larger countries where the Conglomerates actually run things and not the government, two words: No chance!
    ....and that's the truth!
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  10. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       24 May 2015 #10

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    but in the days of HD and soon 4000K multi-media
    Nit pick. It's 4K Ultra, not 4000K (which would be 4M).

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    While some rural areas might have trouble in providing fast cabled broadband there really is NO excuse these days NOT to provide unlimited broadband. It's part of 21st century like electricity etc.
    Are you suggesting that Wireless boardband has no excuse not to be unlimited? If so, you really don't understand the realities of the broadband spectrum. They are limited in by physics in how much data they can send across a particular frequency spectrum, and they have to support X number of customers. They can't just add more bandwidth because the frequencies are controlled by the government, and are often EXTREMELY expensive to buy when they come up for auction every few years.

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    As for updates etc on slow broadband connections -- if Ms used say something like Bittorrent to supply updates a lot of people would certainly benefit. There's nothing wrong in using torrent delivery for LEGAL software and this can run nicely at night etc for those with slow broadband without killing the rest of the time they might want to use the internet while downloading.
    We can always count on you Jimbo to self-righteously demand that Microsoft do something they're already doing Go into your Windows 10 settings for Windows updates, and notice there is a setting to download directly from Microsoft, or to download from Microsoft and other PC's on the internet. ie, essentially bit torrent.

    Microsoft has also had technology built into Windows since Windows XP called BITS, or Background Intelligent Transfer Service, which watches your bandwidth and only downloads updates when your network is not being used.

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Consumer power can work wonders -- if your provider doesn't give unlimited broadband then switch and if not possible get involved in some of those consumer action groups. Even HUGE companies react once the "Dollar power" is felt.
    It's pretty rare that people have more than one choice of broadband provider that isn't metered. For instance, here I have cable which isn't metered, and DSL which also isn't.. but DSL is much slower than cable. Wireless is metered in all forms.
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