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  1.    19 May 2015 #11
    Join Date : Jan 2015
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    Enabled by Default


    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    My question is, why the heck don't they enable this by default? I was banging my head against the wall trying to figure this crap out and I've worked in IT for 15 years. How the heck is the standard user supposed to network their machines without this enabled and what purpose does disabling it serve?
    I think it is enabled by default!
    I run three or four machines, with various builds and versions of Windows, continuously and don't seem to have the problem that others are experiencing as reported here.
    I don't use homegroup because I've always felt it was a tad flakey. I use a workgroup, the same one I've used for years, and adding a new machine is as simple as entering the new device in the workgroup, MSHOME in my case, sharing Downloads folder, which should already be shared on other machines on the network, shut down all machines, and COLD boot all machines.
    All machines should appear in the navigation pane with the Download folder in the network.
    If one machine doesn't show............ go to that machine and check that the workgroup is correct and that Downloads is shared. Open the Downloads folder in the Network folder to check it.
    Go to machine #2 and check that Downloads is available on machine #1.
    Simply crosscheck all machines. Get a no show? Check it again for workgroup, shared Downloads, and REBOOT.
    I've been online for over 20 years with several machines at a time and I've never had to "mess with the switches".
    Adapter settings, file sharing and all the other tech settings rarely ever need any help.
    I've noticed postings with a complaint that the recommended settings didn't work last night BUT this morning it worked fine!!! Why??? He booted this morning!!!
    A Reboot is one of the best medicines for a computer that you have ON the computer!!
    That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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  2.    19 May 2015 #12
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Oregon
    Posts : 155
    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    I think it is enabled by default!
    I run three or four machines, with various builds and versions of Windows, continuously and don't seem to have the problem that others are experiencing as reported here.
    I don't use homegroup because I've always felt it was a tad flakey. I use a workgroup, the same one I've used for years, and adding a new machine is as simple as entering the new device in the workgroup, MSHOME in my case, sharing Downloads folder, which should already be shared on other machines on the network, shut down all machines, and COLD boot all machines.
    All machines should appear in the navigation pane with the Download folder in the network.
    If one machine doesn't show............ go to that machine and check that the workgroup is correct and that Downloads is shared. Open the Downloads folder in the Network folder to check it.
    Go to machine #2 and check that Downloads is available on machine #1.
    Simply crosscheck all machines. Get a no show? Check it again for workgroup, shared Downloads, and REBOOT.
    I've been online for over 20 years with several machines at a time and I've never had to "mess with the switches".
    Adapter settings, file sharing and all the other tech settings rarely ever need any help.
    I've noticed postings with a complaint that the recommended settings didn't work last night BUT this morning it worked fine!!! Why??? He booted this morning!!!
    A Reboot is one of the best medicines for a computer that you have ON the computer!!
    That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
    You are getting lucky then. My latest install, not even the NetBIOS enable trick is working. Steps I took.

    1) Reloaded both machines running windows 10 - build 10074.

    2) Joined same homegroup = THE_MILLERS. Not really Millers, but sub in my last name.

    3) Took ownership of various Non-C drives in windows, and set them up to be shared on network. Created User netconnect with full priv to all shares.

    I still cannot access anything. I also cannot create/join a homegroup. I can create one, but I cannot join that group from the other machine. It sees it, but it does not take the password. I tried deleting the idstore.sset file, but it did not help. I could not even see the other windows 10 computer until I enabled NetBIOS, which is definitely not enabled by default (at least anymore- it was set to auto on both my machines).

    I get prompted for username and password when I try to access the share on the other machine, and when I punch in the username/passwd I setup, I get no-where. This is really frustrating.
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  3.    19 May 2015 #13
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Oregon
    Posts : 155
    Windows 10

    Solution turned out to be run network troubleshooter on upstairs pc. It did not find anything, but after running it, I was able to join homegroup from downstairs machine. This step had failed like 10 times before, even after reboots, though I had only been running the troubleshooter on the downstairs machine which was the machine trying to join home group and connect to shares hosted upstairs. Moving on..
    Last edited by musiclover7; 20 May 2015 at 12:40.
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  4.    19 May 2015 #14
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,442
    win 10 Insider

    Getting the username/password prompt is good news because sharing will work if you enter the credentials properly. Must remember to add the comp name before username e.g. compname\username

    Getting the 80070035 error is a dead end.
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  5.    20 May 2015 #15
    Join Date : May 2015
    Posts : 446
    Redstone_Four

    I also lost the network setting (beside the clock) and not able to close the wired network properly (don't have the wireless, took out the card). I have the 10074 version. Not able to do a print screen (screen shot) to show you the white screen that appears beside the clock. When I go in Network connections and use the main switch (Ethernet Status) to close the Internet, I have to do repair to get it back. Got to go to work...
    Last edited by MikeMecanic; 20 May 2015 at 11:32.
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  6.    20 May 2015 #16
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Oregon
    Posts : 155
    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    Getting the username/password prompt is good news because sharing will work if you enter the credentials properly. Must remember to add the comp name before username e.g. compname\username

    Getting the 80070035 error is a dead end.
    Before I ran that network troubleshooter, which found no issues, no matter what I typed into user/passwd prompt it would not let me in. I tried with computer name, I tried with just \, I created brand new users. Nothing worked. It would not let me join homegroup either. I am not sure what got changed by the troubleshooter, as it isolated no issues, but that proved to be the magic ingredient for me.
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  7.    20 May 2015 #17
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,442
    win 10 Insider

    Well done. Hope 10122 doesn't stuff you up again!!
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  8.    20 May 2015 #18
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Oregon
    Posts : 155
    Windows 10

    It worked for that evening. Now it is all messed up again. Same symptoms. I cannot browse shares on upstairs computer from down. Tried everything. It worked briefly then stopped. Very frustrating!!
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  9.    20 May 2015 #19
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    San Jose, California
    Posts : 2,206
    Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64 Win10Prox64

    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    It worked for that evening. Now it is all messed up again. Same symptoms. I cannot browse shares on upstairs computer from down. Tried everything. It worked briefly then stopped. Very frustrating!!
    Are you running 10074 ? apparently after I updated to 10122, I no longer need the work around as shown in post #3. Set NETBIOS back to default and still working.

    I've noticed that you are using Homegroup for networking. May be changing to regular Home Networking might help.
    Another thing to look at if your router is having the latest firmware.
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  10.    21 May 2015 #20
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Oregon
    Posts : 155
    Windows 10

    I have everything set up for both home group and standard networking. Meaning, those shares should be more than avail at the workgroup and the home group level. How did you upgrade to 10122?

    I wound up rerun-ing network troubleshooter on both machines, which somehow allowed me to see all but 1 drive on my upstairs machine. That one drive is an external USB drive. That is the only difference. Permissions are identical.
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