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  1. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,310
    win 10 Insider
       22 Mar 2015 #1

    Build 10041 can't access win 8.1 shares


    Since I updated to 10041 I can not get to my 8.1 notebook shares. No problem with access to the notebook from my Vista system and 10041 can access Vista and Mybooklive shares as before.

    When trying to access the notebook I get a Windows Security window asking me to enter network credentials but when I do I just get the window re-appearing with the error "The user name or password is incorrect". The window also says the domain is my win 10 machine name. Is this normal?

    All my shares worked fine with 9926 after I added the credentials to the Credential Manager.

    I have re-added the allow insecure auth entry registry fix to no avail. Wasn't needed with 9946. Also blocked incoming on port 139 to no avail.

    Can ping the IP address.

    Anyone else seeing this problem?
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  2. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,592
    Windows 10 Pro
       22 Mar 2015 #2

    linw said: View Post
    When trying to access the notebook I get a Windows Security window asking me to enter network credentials but when I do I just get the window re-appearing with the error "The user name or password is incorrect". The window also says the domain is my win 10 machine name. Is this normal?
    In the credentials dialog, give your Windows 8.1 username as Computer_name\Username, for example if the Win 8.1 PC is MyMonsterMachine and user profile is SuperGeek give the username as MyMonsterMachine\SuperGeek. This changes the domain from the Win 10 PC to Win 8.1 PC.

    Kari
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,310
    win 10 Insider
       22 Mar 2015 #3

    Thank you so much, Kari. It was bugging me big time! These little changes with no warnings can sure trap us. The giveaway was the domain name of my win 10 machine, I guess. Strange that this machine name doesn't matter except for my 8.1 comp. I'll add it to the other credentials, anyway.

    Now I can go back and remove the reg entry and firewall entry!

    Wonder what will trap us next version?

    Cheers and thanks, again.
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  4. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,592
    Windows 10 Pro
       22 Mar 2015 #4

    You are welcome, good to know you got it fixed .
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  5. Joined : Mar 2015
    Houston, TX
    Posts : 8
    win 10
       26 Mar 2015 #5

    Kari - Help pls? more detail on shares & Dialog mentioned?


    I have 8 pc's on one switch + two on Wi-fi. 2 @ Win7, 3 @ Win 8.1 and the rest are win 10, build 10041. There are no share/access issues between Win 7 & 8.1. Win 10 units are -almost- blocked. In bumbling around in the various 'share' scenarios, I've been able to get at two of the Win10 from a Win 7 but none (I think) from Win10.
    ----------------------------
    The Windows Security pop up is the show stopper. On each PC it shows
    Enter your password to connect to: PC name [I want to access]
    block [User Name]
    block [password]
    Domain: (PC name of the machine I'm on???)
    bold red X Logon Failure: unknown user name or bad password
    ------------------------------
    Please provide more detail? I read your response but need help since SHARE always worked before.
    I assume this is 'BUG' since Share always worked before??!

    Thanks in advance
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,310
    win 10 Insider
       26 Mar 2015 #6

    Sounds exactly like my problem. I thought Kari gave a complete answer, incl example, so am puzzled why you have the problem.

    Perhaps you haven't used the Credential Manager in ctrl panel? In Credential Manager click "Windows Credentials" then "Add a Windows credential". This shows three entry boxes. In the first add the computer name you want to access. In the second, User name, type the machinename\username as Kari explains above. User password goes in the last.

    The machinename preface for username sets the domain otherwise the domain is assumed to be the win 10 machine.

    There, have another go!!
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  7. Joined : Mar 2015
    Posts : 10
    Windows 10
       26 Mar 2015 #7

    I just installed Build 10041 today and have the same problem. When I installed build 10041 I had to setup a local account as well as a Microsoft account. When I logon the Microsoft account I can't see or connect to the other network computers. When I logon with the local account everything works OK I see and can connect to the other network computers. I would really like it to work with the Microsoft account also.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    A Finnish ex-pat in Germany
    Posts : 9,592
    Windows 10 Pro
       26 Mar 2015 #8

    I put the work for a Windows 10 Networking tutorial I had already started on ice a few weeks ago because I decided to wait this new build. At that point I had already made one video for that tutorial. I will finish the tutorial this weekend, in the meantime here's the video I already made for it:



    The video is made in Build 9926 so I have to remake it. The tut with new videos will be online sometime this weekend.

    Kari
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  9. Joined : Mar 2015
    Houston, TX
    Posts : 8
    win 10
       27 Mar 2015 #9

    linw said: View Post
    Sounds exactly like my problem. I thought Kari gave a complete answer, incl example, so am puzzled why you have the problem.

    Perhaps you haven't used the Credential Manager in ctrl panel? In Credential Manager click "Windows Credentials" then "Add a Windows credential". This shows three entry boxes. In the first add the computer name you want to access. In the second, User name, type the machinename\username as Kari explains above. User password goes in the last.

    The machinename preface for username sets the domain otherwise the domain is assumed to be the win 10 machine.

    There, have another go!!
    Linw, Thanks for the reply, and yes, never used the credential Manager.

    re: PW, is this the individual machine PW/(I hope - Pin?) that's required after re-boot? Or just create one?
    I'll try both.

    Anyway, thanks to you and the Community.
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  10. Joined : Mar 2015
    Houston, TX
    Posts : 8
    win 10
       27 Mar 2015 #10

    fixit038 said: View Post
    Linw, Thanks for the reply, and yes, never used the credential Manager.

    re: PW, is this the individual machine PW/(I hope - Pin?) that's required after re-boot? Or just create one?
    I'll try both.

    Anyway, thanks to you and the Community.
    -------------
    Searched for 'How to Windows 8.1 Credential Manager' and got another group's explanation.
    I now know how to do it and it's a real PAIN IN THE REAR for the average user. The Share function
    was doable, involved, but doable. For a single machine, annoying, with 10 PC's it's a HUGE step back
    in user friendliness. Hopefully The Win10 Team will re-install the easier share function soon.

    Again, y'all spoke truth, -THANKS-, I just didn't want the answer.
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