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    Is there any freeware RDP alternative
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    I'm not sure what happens when you do the Windows Store upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7/8.x Standard. I think, because it doesn't use a new key (uses the Windows 8 key) it may install as Windows 10 standard...
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    Mystere said:
    I'm not sure what happens when you do the Windows Store upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7/8.x Standard. I think, because it doesn't use a new key (uses the Windows 8 key) it may install as Windows 10 standard...

    No, 10 from Insider installs as Pro, from TechNet Eval center as Enterprise, regardless the pre-upgrade OS and upgrade method (in-place / custom).
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    d2123cross said:
    I just found out about Windows 10 Pro T.P. Remote desktop is only on pro.
    d2123cross said:
    Is there any freeware RDP alternative
    • Did you follow the steps 2.1 to 2.11 in Remote Desktop tutorial, Part Two to allow remote desktop connections to Windows 10 PC?
    • Are both your Android device and Windows 10 PC using the same network? If not, if for instance your Android device is using a mobile connection and the Windows 10 PC your home network you need to set port forwarding on your router as told in the tutorial, Part Eight.
    • Are you using Windows Firewall, it allows the remote connection automatically? If not, if you are using a third party firewall consult its documentation for instructions on how to allow remote desktop connection.
    • Are you using the default Windows Defender AV protection in Windows 10? If not, if you are using Avira or Avast AV protection they sometimes block the remote desktop connection. Try to disable the AV protection, then the remote desktop connection.

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    Kari said:
    • Did you follow the steps 2.1 to 2.11 in Remote Desktop tutorial, Part Two to allow remote desktop connections to Windows 10 PC?
    • Are both your Android device and Windows 10 PC using the same network? If not, if for instance your Android device is using a mobile connection and the Windows 10 PC your home network you need to set port forwarding on your router as told in the tutorial, Part Eight.
    • Are you using Windows Firewall, it allows the remote connection automatically? If not, if you are using a third party firewall consult its documentation for instructions on how to allow remote desktop connection.
    • Are you using the default Windows Defender AV protection in Windows 10? If not, if you are using Avira or Avast AV protection they sometimes block the remote desktop connection. Try to disable the AV protection, then the remote desktop connection.

    Kari
    Can't find anything relating to remote desktop in the remote tab,Android and PC are on the same network, Firewall has nothing relating to RDP, Using Windows Defender
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       #16

    Please take these two screenshots and post here:

    System:

    Can't use RDP Microsoft Android app. Any way to check and see if RDP i-2015-03-14_11h47_59.png

    Remote settings:

    Can't use RDP Microsoft Android app. Any way to check and see if RDP i-2015-03-14_11h50_11.png

    In case you need help in creating a screenshot see this tutorial at our sister site the Seven Forums, the process of creating a screenshot is the same in Windows 10: Screenshot with Paint - Windows 7 Help Forums

    And here you find instructions in posting a screenshot at ten forums: Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Ten Forums - Windows 10 Forums

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    Kari said:
    Please take these two screenshots and post here:

    System:

    Can't use RDP Microsoft Android app. Any way to check and see if RDP i-2015-03-14_11h47_59.png

    Remote settings:

    Can't use RDP Microsoft Android app. Any way to check and see if RDP i-2015-03-14_11h50_11.png

    In case you need help in creating a screenshot see this tutorial at our sister site the Seven Forums, the process of creating a screenshot is the same in Windows 10: Screenshot with Paint - Windows 7 Help Forums

    And here you find instructions in posting a screenshot at ten forums: Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Ten Forums - Windows 10 Forums

    Kari
    My screenshots are above.
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    That is very strange. You have the windows 10 which is only available as Pro, Enterprise and Server versions, all able to be remote hosts, but no remote desktop option.

    I will check something first, will be back.
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    Mystere said:
    I'm not sure what happens when you do the Windows Store upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7/8.x Standard. I think, because it doesn't use a new key (uses the Windows 8 key) it may install as Windows 10 standard...
    Kari said:
    No, 10 from Insider installs as Pro, from TechNet Eval center as Enterprise, regardless the pre-upgrade OS and upgrade method (in-place / custom).
    Looks like I owe you an apology @Mystere. I did some testing and you are fully right, I only partially (that's my story and I am sticking to it ).

    The Windows 10 Technical Preview ISO image is either Pro, Enterprise or Server. No basic edition ISO available. A clean install using any of these ISO images as install source always installs a Pro, Enterprise or Server edition of Windows 10, and the installed Windows 10 can act as a remote desktop host allowing incoming remote connections.

    However, if upgraded from Windows 8 basic edition or Windows 7 Home Premium or lesser edition, the installation of Windows "adapts" and only installs the basic edition of Windows 10. This edition can then not act as remote host.

    I tested first the full in-place upgrade, keeping everything:

    Can't use RDP Microsoft Android app. Any way to check and see if RDP i-2015-03-15_05h35_06.png

    The result is clear, edition as seen in PC settings > System > About:

    Can't use RDP Microsoft Android app. Any way to check and see if RDP i-2015-03-15_06h18_03.png

    Compare this to same after a clean install:

    Can't use RDP Microsoft Android app. Any way to check and see if RDP i-2015-03-15_07h11_28.png

    Next I tested the "Keep nothing" upgrade, thinking it would be more like a clean install:

    Can't use RDP Microsoft Android app. Any way to check and see if RDP i-2015-03-15_06h23_04.png

    The result is the same as in in-place upgrade, the edition is basic, not Pro. Even changing the DWORD fDenyTSConnections value to 0 in registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server which usually can be used to enable incoming remote desktop connections did not help and the conclusion is quite clear: when upgraded from a Windows edition which does not support incoming remote desktop connections, Windows 10 installs the basic edition and cannot be used as remote host.

    Only way to allow incoming remote desktop connections in Windows 10 is to perform a clean install.

    At the moment performing a test upgrade from Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows 10 Enterprise, I'll be back to tell how it went in a moment.

    Kari


    EDIT:

    As expected, upgrading windows 7 Home Premium with a Windows 10 Enterprise ISO, the result is of course an Enterprise edition which can be used as remote host allowing incoming remote desktop connections. The problem is that this upgrade path does not allow keeping installed apps.
    Last edited by Kari; 15 Mar 2015 at 01:43. Reason: Added information about Enterprise upgrade
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