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  1.    11 Mar 2016 #11

    Hi there.

    If you plug the NAS into a NIC card on another computer you will need a "Reversal cable" or Crossover cable to use that computers Internet connection. Some NIC's might have an "Intelligent sensor" which knows if there's a direct computer to computer LAN connection -- If you are doing that type of stuff I'd go for the Crossover cable. Remember then that if the Computer providing the Internet connection is powered off the rest of your LAN won't have access to the NAS box.

    60 mb/s is better than 20 - and could be liveable with if you aren't transferring huge files - but imagine taking a backup say an OS image which is 20 - 40 GB or more --that will take forever at that speed to store on your NAS.

    IMO you really need around 95 mb/s or more to make this sensibly useable.

    Cheers
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  2.    11 Mar 2016 #12

    yea I'm not sure how to achieve 95 though. Maybe use jumboframes.
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  3.    11 Mar 2016 #13
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    I get consistent 120 MB/s speeds to my NAS on my network, whether plugged into gigabit Ethernet or WiFi. I am extremely pleased with my setup. I have a Nighthawk R7000 router in the basement, with the NAS connected directly to gigabit Ethernet port on it. It broadcasts the same WiFi SSID, encryption and password on both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz bands. Upstairs in my second floor daughter's bedroom I have a Linksys RE6500 WiFi extender. It connects to the R7000 router on both 2.4 and 5 ghz bands and is set to broadcast exact same SSID's on the same channels as the R7000. So when you connect at my house you see 1 SSID, 1 Password, and the router/range extender sort everything out. If you connect to the range extender on 2.4 ghz, it will communicate with the router on 5 ghz - and vice versa - so the single WiFi connection speed is not cut in half.

    My daughter's XBOX One and smart TV are connected to the gigabit ports on the WiFi extender in her bedroom. I tried all kinds of different configurations and this method has been absolutely 100% flawless. I get 80% signal and 100% internet speed no matter where I am in or around my house and consistent 120 MB/s speeds to/from NAS.

    All that being said, I also have no major WiFi signals around my house - if you live in a crowded area with lots of WiFi signals channels in use, that I suppose WiFi performance will probably be degraded.
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  4.    11 Mar 2016 #14

    hmm maybe I should get that router. Just using an ISP modem/router atm.
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  5.    11 Mar 2016 #15

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    I get consistent 120 MB/s speeds to my NAS on my network, whether plugged into gigabit Ethernet or WiFi. I am extremely pleased with my setup. I have a Nighthawk R7000 router in the basement, with the NAS connected directly to gigabit Ethernet port on it. It broadcasts the same WiFi SSID, encryption and password on both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz bands. Upstairs in my second floor daughter's bedroom I have a Linksys RE6500 WiFi extender. It connects to the R7000 router on both 2.4 and 5 ghz bands and is set to broadcast exact same SSID's on the same channels as the R7000. So when you connect at my house you see 1 SSID, 1 Password, and the router/range extender sort everything out. If you connect to the range extender on 2.4 ghz, it will communicate with the router on 5 ghz - and vice versa - so the single WiFi connection speed is not cut in half.

    My daughter's XBOX One and smart TV are connected to the gigabit ports on the WiFi extender in her bedroom. I tried all kinds of different configurations and this method has been absolutely 100% flawless. I get 80% signal and 100% internet speed no matter where I am in or around my house and consistent 120 MB/s speeds to/from NAS.

    All that being said, I also have no major WiFi signals around my house - if you live in a crowded area with lots of WiFi signals channels in use, that I suppose WiFi performance will probably be degraded.
    Hi there

    That's about right -- 120 Mb/s is good -- anything over about 95 - 110 is acceptable in my book.

    Where I am obviously we don't have too much Wifi contention -- only 300,000 people in the whole country !!! with probably one of the best if not the best Internet systems on the entire planet -- but running a load of cables is still a pain which is why I like the Wifi Bridge idea and as you have seen with your set up on the "Local LAN" bits you can use the 5 GHZ band even if you only use the 2.4 GHZ band for the rest.

    Anyway I hope it all is working for you -- I can see why these Network Gurus get paid their salaries / contract money -- to me Networks are still a total mystery and if I do anything which works I feel like I've just won the Lottery !!!.

    Going to enjoy some UK footie this weekend -- If there were any "Aliens" out there - I'm sure it would be written into "Encyclopaedia Galactica" or whatever -- Planet Earth - it's one great contribution to Galactic civilisation --- Football (the version with the ROUND ball for our US colleagues !!).

    Cheers everyone and have a good weekend.

    @ UK audiences -- have a look at BBC 4 this weekend - great Icelandic TV series (Eng subs) climax on Sat -- called TRAPPED. Filmed in the port of Seyđisfjřrđur where the Ferry from Denmark / Faroe Islands arrives. Episodes 9/10 -- earlier episodes on BBC Iplayer.

    jimbo
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  6.    11 Mar 2016 #16
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    When people talk about mb/s - is this megabits per second or megabytes per second? Whenever I copy large video files from my desktop onto my NAS drives. The transfer rate is generally about 30-40 megabytes per second ( I guess that's about 300-400 megabits), I don't know what the read rate typically is though, I guess it's probably double that at least. That's over Ethernet gigabit runs although the drives are on different switches. I just guess the my book and Iomega NAS drives hard drives are the limiting factor. But if the OP is getting 20 megabytes per sec I wouldn't say that's too bad but if it's megabits then that's not so good.

    i struggle to see how people can achieve 120-125 megabytes per second transfers. Isn't that the absolute maximum gigabit Ethernet can carry? everything would have to be absolutely perfect to get anywhere near that.
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  7.    11 Mar 2016 #17

    Even with the NAS in the same room as me and plugged in to the same powerline adapter, I'm still maxing out at 60. Is there anything I can do to increase that?
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  8.    11 Mar 2016 #18
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    Is that 60 megabytes or 60 megabits though. If it's the former then that is plenty fast enough. The absolute theoretical max over gigabit is 125 megabytes a second. But nobody can ever achieve this due to overheads, so I'd say what your getting ( if this is megabytes ) is just fine.
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  9.    11 Mar 2016 #19

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  10.    11 Mar 2016 #20
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    I'd say based on that your speed is excellent and there is nothing to worry about. Not all NAS drives are the same, even though they have gigabit ports they typically write at anywhere between 10 - 100 megabytes per second. The fact you are achieving 65.4 means you've got a good one. That's my view on this. I wish I could get that speed, mine are 30-40 write speed but I accept this because my drives are not connected to the router direct but via switches (and each on different ones at that) and I think the actual NAS drives are the bottleneck as opposed to my network

    i don't know what brand NAS you have but I have googled in the past. The my book live I have for example, 30-50 megabytes per second write speed for a large contingous file is typical of its performance so compared to that your NAS is in good nick. Plus the powerline overhead needs factoring in. They are very prone to noise and offer much less throughput than their advertised speed. To give point that depending where you plug in it would make no difference if you had 100 megabit powerlines or 1000 megabit powerlines due to the noise.
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