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  1.    02 Mar 2016 #1
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    Shared printer problem with windows 10 printer default manage


    Hi to all.

    I am having an annoing problem with shared printers.

    The user that share a printer lose the default printer in any case when another user print on this shared and it turn immediatly default printer only for the user that share the printer.

    The printer shared is a label printer without network port and all was working very well before this , in my opinion, unusefull improve.

    All user have the " not manage default option" , win 10 pro but seems that "default option" do not effect at all with shared printers.

    It is clear that is a very bad working for the sharing printer user that have to check every time what the actual default printer.

    any suggestion or is it a win 10 bug ?

    ciao
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  2.    03 Mar 2016 #2
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    Not a Windows bug. Helps to know the model and manufacturer of thr label printer.
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  3.    04 Mar 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    Not a Windows bug. Helps to know the model and manufacturer of thr label printer.
    brother ql-570

    any idea to solve?
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  4.    04 Mar 2016 #4
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    If you can use a Network Print Server that is compatible with it, you can use it on the network without having a computer. If Cups has that model, you could just use a Raspberry Pi 2 for handling the print jobs.
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  5.    05 Mar 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    If you can use a Network Print Server that is compatible with it, you can use it on the network without having a computer. If Cups has that model, you could just use a Raspberry Pi 2 for handling the print jobs.
    thank you for your replay.

    But you seggest to use Network Print Server in order to solve a problem that shows only with win 10 ( xp, seven, 8, 10 first built do not have this problem) because in your opinion/expirience win 10 will never manage correcly a shared printer ?

    How you call a new feature (printer default manage) that run unaspected result? I call it a bug.

    There is a way to cut-off this unusefull feature?
    Everything was so easy before and I would like to avoid to increase costs and network maintenance ( Network Print Server).

    Belive me it is a creasy situation for user that shares his printer. It is impossible to the control were will go his prints if meanwhile somebody start printing on his shared printer.

    Were is a correct place to complain microsoft for this problem?

    thank you for you help
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  6.    05 Mar 2016 #6
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    Connected shared printers and scanners to a dedicated workstation is going away. Using something like a Raspberry Pi running Cups would solve it.

    The issue is with having a piece of hardware that may not be supported by Windows 10, but still supported by earlier Windows versions.
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  7.    05 Mar 2016 #7
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    Does your Router have a USB port on it? Maybe could install the printer using that.
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  8.    05 Mar 2016 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berton View Post
    Does your Router have a USB port on it? Maybe could install the printer using that.
    That will not work for the OP, since the printer was disco'd after Windows 2000, but Brother was able to make the driver work for XP & Vista. After that, it was no longer supported and there is no way that this dinosaur will work for the OP, even with CUPS, after I was able to do a little more research.

    The OP needs to get an updated device and toss this one into the E-Cycle bin.
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  9.    06 Mar 2016 #9
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    Sharing Ql-570 works very well with 10 and descoverable.

    The only bad iussue is that the 10's last buit has intruduced an unusefull feature that by default change the default printer (forcing users default).
    This drive my user creazy with normal activity with network printer before I found that it can be switch off.

    WINDOWS DEFAULT MANAGE

    Problem still there only for share printers and it is not a matter of drivers.

    I hope MS will cut off this new feature.
    Please MS manage your business not my printers.

    Just need to stop this help not needed.
    Last edited by tremore; 06 Mar 2016 at 03:29.
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  10.    06 Mar 2016 #10
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    Again the problem is that Brother no longer maintained the drivers for this device after XP SP3 came out, which was the same time that Vista hit the market. There is nothing in this world that will make that discontinued piece of hardware work with any modern OS.

    E-Cycle it and buy a new one that is will last you for a few more years. You may be able to get a refurb unit that is a couple of years old that may last you for a couple more years. In reality there is nothing magical out there that will make it work. It is not a Microsoft problem, it is the manufacturer seeing the fact that there is no reason to maintain drivers for a device that has been outdated since 2000, but hung in there, because they were not ready to release the unit that they did when 7 hit the market.

    You need to realize that if you are running a business, anything like computers, etc are wrote off on the first year and out of date in six months. No one wants to do business with someone who is still using equipment from a decade and a half ago. Do you and your business a favor and replace the old Dinosaur with a new one.

    Once again this is not a Microsoft problem. It is a manufacturer issue that is called "Obsolete Marketing", that has been going on since the first wheel and wagon was invented.
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