1.    12 Feb 2016 #1

    Please help ==> before I jump off the Brooklyn Bridge


    Hi folks

    I'm sure some here wouldn't mind if I did jump off the Brooklyn Bridge-- but what is it with Windows networking that I can't even get TWO computers with similar hardware running the same version of W10 to see each other. (Real machines too --not VM's).

    1 computer works fine --the other can see media servers and itself but hasn't a clue about the other computer.

    Seems no way to fix these sorts of problems reliably.

    Anybody to the rescue before I jump. !!!!!

    Both machines running W10 pro x64 - latest updates --note not the insider versions.

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    Thanks

    Cheers
    jimbo (and hope I'm still here tomorrow (SAT) !!!!.
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  2.    16 Feb 2016 #2
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    win 10 Insider

    Jumped yet, Jimbo? Suppose I have to wait to see whether you answer or not!

    Just how it is with win 10 ATM. I would hazard that the first one shown is the master browser - they always work fine.
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  3.    16 Feb 2016 #3
    Join Date : Feb 2016
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    Windows 10

    All computers leave the HomeGroup and create a new one with your computer that's connected most of the time.
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  4.    16 Feb 2016 #4
    Join Date : Jan 2014
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    Windows 10

    It doesn't really solve the problem, but what happens if you type in the IP address of the missing one into File Explorer?
    Mine is in this format for instance
    Code:
    \\192.168.x.y
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  5.    17 Feb 2016 #5

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    It doesn't really solve the problem, but what happens if you type in the IP address of the missing one into File Explorer?
    Mine is in this format for instance
    Code:
    \\192.168.x.y
    Hi there

    IP address works fine - but since I'm using DHCP I'd have to get the IP address each time I boot up that machine.

    The crazy thing is that SAMBA (Linux server) can see both W10 machines - and once SAMBA has connected to the problem machine it miraculously can see the other W10 system.

    The wonders of W10 networking -- I don't even think The Holy Ghost could unravel the intricacies of it. !!!

    The Brooklyn Bridge has been spared another "Visitor" this time. !

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6.    17 Feb 2016 #6
    Join Date : Feb 2016
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    Windows 10 Home Premium

    EXACT same situation as OP. Mine also shows the other pc when using \\192.168.x.x
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  7.    17 Feb 2016 #7

    Could it be Windows Firewall? Have you tried messing around there?


    (I'm sure all the regulars would miss you)
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  8.    17 Feb 2016 #8
    Join Date : Jan 2016
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    windows 10

    I suspect there is nothing you can do, it is an MS problem. I have almost an identical setup and have been following the problem thoroughly discussed in the thread by keseyken,

    Cant see other computers in the Workgroup on Windows 10 Computer

    The most sensible thing to me, and is basically confirmed on my setup, is the comment by linw,
    I would bet that the reason you see successful network shares move from one desktop to the other is that shares show fine on the master browser and you are seeing the shift of the MB from one comp to the other. To confirm, run nbtstat -n from a command prompt and that will show which comp is the master browser.

    The computer I boot first shows both computers on the network and the second only itself (and that is not always, sometimes I have to restart Function Discovery service to get it to show up).

    I have been a home PC and MS/DOS user since the early days, circa 1985, and it has never changed. From a users perspective it remains 60% science and 40% voodoo or probably similar to something like the golden ratio. MS may eventually fix the problem by sharing the MB information among network computers, but its probably best to just get your own work around for whatever specific things you want to share, and not rely specifically on the File Explorer Network entry. My Homegroup seems to work ok for everything I want to share or I can network specific folders I want to share ok.
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  9.    17 Feb 2016 #9
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 380
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit v10586.3

    network sharing should be the same on both machines. not a problem here with win 10. sounds like a discovery problem. may be bad network card driver on one or both p cees.
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