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  1.    30 Nov 2015 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by spapakons View Post
    Is network discovery enabled in Advanced Sharing Options? Are all the relevant services running (not remember which right now) ? I don't know if this help, but maybe you should disable password sharing.
    Advanced sharing is enabled for domain computers and the appropriate services are running. PW sharing not present in domain.
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  2.    30 Nov 2015 #22
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    WIndows 10 Pro x64 version 1607 build 14393.447

    Windows 7 too?


    I have a WIndows 7 Professional x64 VM, which I occasionally use for testing.

    It was able to see all the systems on the network. But today I installed a lot of updates (I guess about 6 months of those) and surprise: it can no longer see the other systems.

    It seems to me that MS was so proud of an "enhancement" in Windows 10, that they back ported it to Windows 7.

    I am not going to find out which update causes the problem.

    Bart
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  3.    30 Nov 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartZorn View Post
    I have a WIndows 7 Professional x64 VM, which I occasionally use for testing.

    It was able to see all the systems on the network. But today I installed a lot of updates (I guess about 6 months of those) and surprise: it can no longer see the other systems.

    It seems to me that MS was so proud of an "enhancement" in Windows 10, that they back ported it to Windows 7.

    I am not going to find out which update causes the problem.

    Bart
    Looks like there is issue here. Since it involves network browsing, finding a fix should be high priority for Microsoft. This type of problem is great way to bother IT managers of big organization trying out windows 10. We can hope that network objects will magically appear on network browsing. Sooner would be better than later.
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  4.    01 Dec 2015 #24
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    In Windows 10 v1511, I noticed that it uses WSD protocol to identify a computer with Windows 7 SP1 on my LAN (peer to peer).

    I can not understand because the other computers with Windows 7 SP1 does not are displayed by Windows 10.

    All computers with Windows 7 SP1 are displayed among themselves (using the WDS protocol) and they can also display the computer with Windows 10.

    So, why Windows 10 sees only one using WDS protocol?

    All computers have the same workgroup.

    Thanks

    Bye
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  5.    05 Dec 2015 #25
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    Possible solution!


    *SOLUTION*
    I discovered that my server on the network had defaulted to smb2. I changed the server to smb1, and yikes everything appeared under Network in Win 10 Pro 64. It seems any networked computer not on smb1 will cause all network browse to fail.
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  6.    05 Dec 2015 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwd View Post
    Looks like there is issue here. Since it involves network browsing, finding a fix should be high priority for Microsoft. This type of problem is great way to bother IT managers of big organization trying out windows 10. We can hope that network objects will magically appear on network browsing. Sooner would be better than later.
    Still not fixed after last updates.
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  7.    05 Dec 2015 #27
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    WIndows 10 Pro x64 version 1607 build 14393.447

    SMB1, SMB2 or whatever


    OK, I don't know much about SMB versions (if anything). But I could not find anything in the registry of both my Windows 2012 R2 server and the Windows 10 1511 client which could indicate what SMB version is being used.

    Could someone please elaborate on this? Which registry keys are involved here?

    Thanks in advance!

    Bart
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  8.    05 Dec 2015 #28
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    Windows 10

    From: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2696547

    To obtain the current state of the SMB server protocol configuration, run the following cmdlet:
    Code:
    Get-SmbServerConfiguration | Select EnableSMB1Protocol, EnableSMB2Protocol
    Run in PowerShell as Administrator

    For the Win10 client run this is PowerShell Command Prompt:
    Code:
    sc qc lanmanworkstation
    Unless you've messed with it one of the dependencies should read as "MRxSmb20"
    Edit: My apologies: In the Win10 client that should be run in Command Prompt not PowerShell.
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  9.    05 Dec 2015 #29
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    Win 10 Pro

    SMB1 Location


    I have a Synology server. In the server Control Panel under File Services/Advanced Setting/Max Protocol for Windows File Service/Dropdown box SMB1,2, or 3. It defaulted to SMB2. I chose SMB1 and the Network reappeared in the Win 10 desk top. Hope this helps you.
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  10.    06 Dec 2015 #30
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    WIndows 10 Pro x64 version 1607 build 14393.447

    SMB2 on Windows 10 seems to be broken


    OK, thanks. Now I have seen that when I disable SMB2 on my server, the network neighborhood on my Windows 10 system reappears. So it seems that SMB2 on Windows 10 1511 is broken.

    Regards,

    Bart
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