Fake localhost access?

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  1. Posts : 191
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       #21

    F22 Simpilot said:
    It is, but you're apparently using a Secure Shell (SSH) so I thought perhaps your server is Linux.

    PM responded to.
    Sorry, I actually never mentioned that. The PC running the server is Windows, the other in the LAN would be Windows, Linux, Android, even Mac, whatever.
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  2. Posts : 1,106
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       #22

    Because a xammp server or any other type web service or server like this needs access through its hosts local firewall if you want lan wide access.

    As already mentioned the port does not need to be opened and also you are not helping by being cryptic if its all contained inside you lan and you are not exposing this service to the outside then you don't really need to be cyptic either.
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  3. Posts : 191
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       #23

    Malneb said:
    Because a xammp server or any other type web service or server like this needs access through its hosts local firewall if you want lan wide access.

    As already mentioned the port does not need to be opened and also you are not helping by being cryptic if its all contained inside you lan and you are not exposing this service to the outside then you don't really need to be cyptic either.
    Again, sorry for being cryptic. I just don't wanna publicly say which software I'm trying to trick into not paying for premium features. I don't think it's a good idea to put on record here how to bypass the app's restrictions, I'm thinking about the original developer.

    It's not WAMP or XAMPP or any typical web server. Think of it like this: I have a BitTorrent with the Web Interface option enabled, if I enter the Web GUI from the same machine, localhost, I can delete torrents from it, if entered from any other LAN device, I can see the torrents but not delete them.

    So what I want is to access to the PC running BitTorrent from other LAN PCs but faking a localhost access to be able to delete torrents from any PC, not just the one running BitTorrent.

    Forget about WAN, I never mentioned that here. And I also never said I opened any ports. What I did was forward the port from one LAN pc to another through SSH tunnel so the port can be use on another LAN computer as if it were their own, accessing the other PC by typing literally "localhost" on the web browser. Again, this is the command I used:

    ssh -L SERVICE_PORT:SERVICE_PC_IP:SERVICE_PORT USER@SERVICE_PC_IP

    Sorry if I can't explain myself better, english is not my native language.

    I really hope this clear things up, apart from the application I'm using I'm giving all the explanations and setup involved.

    And no, no WAN or port opening involved, never said that, never will. This is all about a local network.
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  4. Posts : 295
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       #24

    After some PM exchanges with the OP, I have come to the conclusion the OP could benefit from a Windows proxy server software instead of an SSH tunnel which is slightly more complicated.

    The OP is accesses this "server" via a web browser using the SSH tunnel to mimic a localhost environment mirroring computer A. So it's as if he still has the IP of localhost on computer A accessing computer A via computer B.

    Having said all that. Anyone know of a good Windows proxy server software? Like a Sock 5 proxy? This would allow the OP to setup the proxy server software on computer A and then on computer B configure the browser's proxy address to computer A to maintain that "localhost" environment he's getting now with an SSH tunnel. At least that's the theory. It should work in an encapsulated Sock 5 environment.

    Please don't suggest a Windows proxy server software that needs compiling or is CygWin dependent like Squid. I'm still searching for something that's suitable.
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  5. Posts : 1,106
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       #25

    eXtremeDevil said:
    It's not WAMP or XAMPP or any typical web server. Think of it like this: I have a BitTorrent with the Web Interface option enabled, if I enter the Web GUI from the same machine, localhost, I can delete torrents from it, if entered from any other LAN device, I can see the torrents but not delete them.

    So what I want is to access to the PC running BitTorrent from other LAN PCs but faking a localhost access to be able to delete torrents from any PC, not just the one running BitTorrent.
    Wouldn't user groups be involved? Because you are a user on PC B trying to delete files on PC A then like you said they will be read only because computer A owns the files. You would have to make a Domain with active directory and add all your PC's as admins.

    Sorry i cannot think of this stuff sometimes because networking gets complicated fast and i find it easier to do this stuff when its in front of me. Not sure if there is another way to do this but file perms at least seems like they would be at play here.
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  6. Posts : 191
    Windows 10 Pro 20H2 x64
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       #26

    Malneb said:
    Wouldn't user groups be involved? Because you are a user on PC B trying to delete files on PC A then like you said they will be read only because computer A owns the files. You would have to make a Domain with active directory and add all your PC's as admins.

    Sorry i cannot think of this stuff sometimes because networking gets complicated fast and i find it easier to do this stuff when its in front of me. Not sure if there is another way to do this but file perms at least seems like they would be at play here.
    It's not like that at all. My example was about deleting torrents from the download list, about deleting a task inside BitTorrent. The settings visible or not depending if on localhost or not only affects the service itself, no Windows files or users involved. Sorry if it wasn't clear enough, I used a real example and I didn't thought about people not getting it. I supposed that those who have used the BitTorrent WebUI (mini web service) at some time would automatically understand that "deleting torrents" would refer to clearing them from the BitTorrent download list through the WebUI. And in any case, was just an example, on my first post I said that the localhost access exposes some settings that the access from other PCs on the LAN does not. I said nothing about handling files.

    So please guys, try not to complicate or overthink this, is just a small service with few options of the same service that can only be changed if accessed the Web (administration) UI of the same service from localhost and not other computers of the LAN. No WAN, no port forwarding, no Windows settings/permissions/users, no NOTHING ESLSE.
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  7. Posts : 191
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       #27

    Malneb said:
    lol ok then have fun
    I guess you don't have any ideas right?
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  8. Posts : 1,106
    Windows 10
       #28

    Don't tell me i am wrong. Can you tell me why you cannot access the read only files? well i just told you why.
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  9. Posts : 191
    Windows 10 Pro 20H2 x64
    Thread Starter
       #29

    Malneb said:
    Don't tell me i am wrong. Can you tell me why you cannot access the read only files? well i just told you why.
    I'm sorry, what read only files? Again, I NEVER said anything about files, is not about files!
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  10. Posts : 1,106
    Windows 10
       #30

    yes you did

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    "if I enter the Web GUI from the same machine, localhost, I can delete torrents from it, if entered from any other LAN device, I can see the torrents but not delete them."

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    Regardless you are overall talking about managing a lan network which means you want a network admin role so yes user groups become relevant.

    it took us this long to get here because you were cryptic.
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