No internet on bootup - strange new behaviour

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  1. Posts : 187
    Windows 10
       #1

    No internet on bootup - strange new behaviour


    Hi. It used to be that, if I had no internet connection on bootup, I could fix it by playing around with Connect/Disconnect (see 'A' in the pic) and/or disabling/enabling the wifi adapter. Now, for some reason, I don't get 'A', I get 'B' which I can do nothing with. Also, disabling/enabling the adapter is not an option. My only fix is to Restart.

    Can anyone explain this new behaviour and maybe suggest a fix without Restarting?

    Odd fact: this only happens on the second bootup of the day. My pre-breakfast and evening bootups are fine!

    Win10 ver21H2
    No internet on bootup - strange new behaviour-no-internet.jpg
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  2. Posts : 43,183
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, first thought: have you tried disabling Fast Startup? (Fast Startup affects a cold boot, not a restart so fits the pattern).

    Have you tried rt clicking the taskbar icon when there's no connection, and clicking Troubleshoot..?
    Not suggesting that as a solution, but it might tell you more.

    I'm guessing the relevant driver isn't being loaded when you boot up with no connection- check that in Device Manager.
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  3. Posts : 187
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Hi and thanks for that. Have turned off Fast Startup and will monitor the next few days.
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  4. Posts : 17,011
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #4

    dortmunder said:
    ... disabling/enabling the adapter is not an option.
    1 Why not?

    2 I used to have to do that when I saw diagram B in a couple of computers.
    I wrote a batch file for convenience.
    DisableEnableWiFiCard batch file - post #9 - TenForums

    3 Please comment on the notion that your WiFi adapter driver is at fault - you might need to update your Bios & re-install the WiFi adapter driver.


    Best of luck,
    Denis
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  5. Posts : 187
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Hi Denis. I use that batch file myself. When my issue arises, the cmd box just sits at the first command, it never gets round to the second. I don't have a notion that my adapter driver is at fault - I've no idea what the source of the problem is. Hopefully the disabling of Fast Startup will be of benefit.
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  6. Posts : 17,011
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #6

    I'm sorry. According to my notes and a printout made at the time, I posted my batch file in post #9 of that linked thread [which now only has 6 posts in it].

    The text of my post was:
    Try3 said:
    I have a script.
    - It disables then re-enables the WiFi adapter
    - It automatically detects the WiFi adapter name then uses that in the relevant commands.
    - It assumes that there is only one WiFi adapter. This avoids having to include checks of multiple adapters being detected.
    - I run it from an Admin shortcut set to run minimised.
    - The two netsh commands are the ones that necessitate the Admin permission.
    - I do not need any delay between the disable & re-enable commands but I added a remarked out one for you to experiment with.
    - There is no user interaction because none is required.
    - I have been using this script for at least six years on multiple computers without any glitches occurring.


    Here is the batch file I use.
    DisableEnableWiFiCard.bat

    Code:
    :: This script will enable-disable the last-found WiFi adapter name so is really only suitable for single-WiFi-adapter computers 
    :: Written by Denis, Try3
    :: The WiFi switch, if one exists, must be turned on
    :: I always run this using an Admin shortcut set to run minimised so I don't bother suppressing with @echo off
    
    prompt $g
    Set /a Found=0
    set FindString=Name
    Set UseExpresssion=netsh wlan show interfaces 
    
    for /F "tokens=*" %%X IN ('%UseExpresssion%  ^|   find /i "%FindString%"') do Call :Interfaces "%%X"
    GoTo EndGetWiFi
    
    :Interfaces
    :: Detect the WiFi adapter name
    Set ThisLine=%~1
    Set AdapterName=%ThisLine:*: =%
    GoTo :EOF
    
    :EndGetWiFi
    :: Do the disabling-enabling
    netsh interface set interface "%AdapterName%" disabled
         :: If you need a delay between disabling and re-enabling then this is where you'd put it
         :: Sample delay 1 second
         :: TIMEOUT /T 1 >nul
    netsh interface set interface "%AdapterName%" enabled
    ::Pause to check outcome during testing


    All the best,
    Denis
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  7. Posts : 17,011
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #7

    I've also found a little note saying that it is worth trying these commands [both need to be run as Admin]
    Code:
    net stop "Netman"
    net start "Netman"

    I haven't made any note about why I think it is worth trying or where I got it from.

    Denis
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  8. Posts : 187
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Sorry, I should have said I use 'a' batchfile, not 'that' batchfile. Mine is simple:
    netsh interface set interface "WiFi" disabled
    netsh interface set interface "WiFi" enabled
    (where “WiFi” is the exact name as shown in Change Adapter Settings). I'll try yours should I need to over the next few days.
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  9. Posts : 17,011
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #9

    Yours does what mine does so there's little point trying mine.
    - Mine adds in automatically detecting the exact name as shown in Change Adapter Settings because I found that easier than always having to talk people through finding out for themselves.
    - Mine also dwells for a second between the disabling & the enabling and that might help.

    Does Settings, Network, WiFi confirm that WiFi is turned on?
    Does Device manager show any warning triangles?

    Is my second suggestion any use - post #7 above?
    Code:
    net stop "Netman"
    net start "Netman"


    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 02 May 2023 at 10:23.
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  10. Posts : 187
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #10

    I'm just gonna wait a few days to see what effect the disabling of Fast Startup has had. I'll come back to you if the problem is still there.
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