My network hates me. Always has.

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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #11

    I was not disagreeing with what you had done but merely the English words you used.

    The checklist I posted contains links to the relevant [illustrated] tutorials.

    Denis
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    Linux:Debian, Kali-Linux... 2xWin8.1,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
       #12

    dalchina said:
    When SMB1 protocol is enabled a new service runs - the computer browser service.

    The impact is that it can take more than 20 minutes for a device new to the network to be recognised.
    It's also seen as a security risk.
    I know the protocols, what i dont know is how win10 change the network detection/browsing part as i never went over to win10 myself.
    Yeah SMB1 is not the safest one. But still it is needed for some NAS solutions and Linux-win networks. So setting up a few more firewall rules is in place if used.

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    Try3 said:
    I was not disagreeing with what you had done but merely the English words you used.

    The checklist I posted contains links to the relevant [illustrated] tutorials.

    Denis
    aha-okay i still working on my english. so i miss-read so to speak.
    Thanks for pointing it out, so i can work on my english.
    Edit
    I found this Share Files and Folders Over a Network in Windows 10 and i see it is clearly named Everyone.. not All.. I need to remember that one. i did an edit in the other post and thanked you for the correction.
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  3. Posts : 16,946
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #13

    Yes, that's one of the tutorials linked to in my checklist [Step 6].
    Try3 said:
    My own network setup procedure has never failed me.
    - It assumes a password has been set for the user account authorising the connection [step 4 in my link below].
    - I have no network fault diagnosis skills. I have never had to deal with any network faults.
    A consolidated network setup checklist [post #4] - TenForums


    All the best,
    Denis
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  4. Posts : 31,651
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #14

    Marie SWE said:
    I know the protocols, what i dont know is how win10 change the network detection/browsing part as i never went over to win10 myself.
    Yeah SMB1 is not the safest one. But still it is needed for some NAS solutions and Linux-win networks. So setting up a few more firewall rules is in place if used.
    As long as you only enable 'SMB 1.0/CIFS Client' on your Windows 10/11 machines it is relatively safe. It is enabling the CIFS Server that has the highest risks. With just the Client enabled a Windows machine can access any SMB1 shared drive. I need it on my machines in order to access a usb drive shared out by my router. It also allows W10/11 to access shares on XP (or earlier) machines. It's not required for Win7 or later shares, Win7 supports SMB 2.

    Enabling CIFS will elect one machine to be the Master Browser, which all other machines can query for a list of known machines on the network. A side effect for my network is that all my machines can see all the others without issues.

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/op...f-c6f6347d5677
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    Linux:Debian, Kali-Linux... 2xWin8.1,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
       #15

    Bree said:
    As long as you only enable 'SMB 1.0/CIFS Client' on your Windows machines it is relatively safe. It is enabling the CIFS Server that has the highest risks. With just the Client enabled a Windows machine can access any SMB1 shared drive. I need it on my machines in order to access a usb drive shared out by my router.

    Enabling CIFS will elect one machine to be the Master Browser, which all other machines can query for a list of known machines on the network. A side effect for my network is that all my machines can see all the others without issues.

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/op...f-c6f6347d5677
    I had to look it up as i got frustrated not to remember what it was in win10-linux network discovery that isn't fun... i fished for the WSD protocol.. it is possible to install it on linux to play nice with win10smb3_11.. but it isn't as easy as just go back to smb1 and using netbios discovery. :)

    as i mention to you in another thread.. i have a bit to catch up on, when it comes to modern windows. *LOL*
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       #16

    I tried adding the password for logon to two computers and it had no effect on letting me connect to network folders. Still asks for a password. Is there a different place for adding passwords other than on the 'Settings/Accounts/Sign In Options'?

    In the meantime, after removing the passwords, now I can see the second computers root directory and all is good. Won't be for long because I've been here before and out of nowhere it will start asking for passwords again. Same old, same old. Oh well...

    A big Thanks to all for the suggestions.
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  7. Posts : 31,651
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #17

    arcman said:
    I tried adding the password for logon to two computers and it had no effect on letting me connect to network folders. Still asks for a password. Is there a different place for adding passwords other than on the 'Settings/Accounts/Sign In Options'?
    When you connect to a share on another PC Windows first tries to connect with the user name and password that you are signed in with on this PC. If there is an account with the same name and password on the other PC you will connect, If not, you will be asked for the name and password of an account on the PC you are trying to connect to. You will also be asked if you want to save these credentials for use next time.

    The names and passwords to be used for connecting to other PCs are saved in Control Panel > Credential Manager under 'Windows Credentials'.

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    You can add the credential before you try to connect, if you wish. Click on 'Add a Windows credential'.

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