Laptop Spawning Access Point Despite No Driver Support??

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  1. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #11

    bro67 said:
    Again nothing is broadcasting as your laptop.
    How can you say this? I have a laptop. It has a computer name of "BernardLapTap2". On my smartphone, I used WiFi analyzer Pro which shows WiFi networks. I see my laptops name in an SSID in the 5Ghz spectrum. I did not enable this hotspot and apparently it is not possible for my laptop's hardware to function as an access point. This is not some glitch in the Android app, as it is corroborated hy my TP Link EAP620HD having seen it in scans. Not only does it share my laptops name as the main part of its SSID, but it also shares the BSSID I see assigned to its WAN Miniport Network Interface. Why do I need to review terms? How can you say nothing is broadcasting as my laptop in light of this?
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  2. Posts : 16,781
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       #12

    I assume your
    Settings, Network, Mobile hotspot
    Settings, Network, VPN
    are off.

    Turn On or Off Mobile Hotspot - TenForumsTutorials
    Set up and Add a VPN Connection - TenForumsTutorials


    Denis
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  3. Posts : 9,765
    Mac OS Catalina
       #13

    Not a glitch, nor is your cellphone just making up device names unless you made it do that and set it to be a hotspot.
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  4. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Try3 said:
    I assume your
    Settings, Network, Mobile hotspot
    Settings, Network, VPN
    are off.

    Turn On or Off Mobile Hotspot - TenForumsTutorials
    Set up and Add a VPN Connection - TenForumsTutorials


    Denis
    There was no VPN connected at the time, although I fail to see how that would account for the broadcast of an SSID.
    I have never used mobile hotspot on that laptop in my life. Additionally, in my original post in the code block, you can see my attempt at creating "HostedNetworkTest" SSID and it fails.
    Code:
    netsh wlan>show hostednetwork
    
    Hosted network settings
    -----------------------
        Mode                   : Allowed
        Settings               : <Not configured>
    
    Hosted network status
    ---------------------
        Status                 : Not available
    
    
    netsh wlan>set hostednetwork mode=allow ssid=HostedNetworkTest key=abc123security
    The hosted network mode has been set to allow.
    The SSID of the hosted network has been successfully changed.
    The user key passphrase of the hosted network has been successfully changed.
    
    netsh wlan>start hostednetwork
    The hosted network couldn't be started.
    The group or resource is not in the correct state to perform the requested operation.
    
    
    netsh wlan>show hostednetwork
    
    Hosted network settings
    -----------------------
        Mode                   : Allowed
        SSID name              : "HostedNetworkTest"
        Max number of clients  : 100
        Authentication         : WPA2-Personal
        Cipher                 : CCMP
    
    Hosted network status
    ---------------------
        Status                 : Not available
    There is, as reported in netsh, no Hosted Network or Soft AP support Soft AP : Not supported by this NIC. I find the firmware version of the NIC to be interesting, it looks like a pre-release build? Firmware Version : 0.0.0.9999;6f;0
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  5. Posts : 16,781
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #15

    XXLIVEX said:
    There was no VPN connected at the time, although I fail to see how that would account for the broadcast of an SSID.
    I suggest you turn these off then post back.
    Try3 said:
    Denis
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  6. Posts : 9,765
    Mac OS Catalina
       #16

    Let me try this again in simple language. Wifi will broadcast what is called a BSSID. For laptops, desktops and other devices that run Windows, it will show to allow Direct Connections and for Screencasting. Also if there is a bluetooth radio on the Wifi adapter, it will show a BSSID. You are overythinking and worrying about something that is a nothing.
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  7. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    bro67 said:
    Wifi will broadcast what is called a BSSID. For laptops, desktops and other devices that run Windows, it will show to allow Direct Connections and for Screencasting.
    Ok. My laptop is on right now, and I do not see the same 5GHz SSID being broadcast.

    Also if there is a bluetooth radio on the Wifi adapter, it will show a BSSID. You are overythinking and worrying about something that is a nothing.
    Bluetooth operates in the 2.4GHz spectrum and as stated this was a 5GHz SSID. Here is the export from "Network Analyzer Pro"
    Code:
     DIRECT-HCBernardLapTap2msPw
    
    BSSID: ae:b6:d0:95:f3:85
    
    Band: 5 GHz
    
    Primary Channel: 36
    
    Primary Channel Frequency: 5180 MHz
    
    Center Channel: 38
    
    Center Channel Frequency: 5190 MHz
    
    Channel Width: 40 MHz
    
    Signal Strength: -69 dBm
    
    Encryption: WPA2 (AES)
    
    Standard: a54/n300(2)
    
    WPS: Yes
    
    Connected: No
    Let me try this again in simple language
    Can you in simple language tell me how I can recreate this? I'm all ears.
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  8. Posts : 9,765
    Mac OS Catalina
       #18

    You are showing a Wifi Direct BSSID, which I have posted info on that and stated multiple times why you are seeing that. Again, nothing nefarious is going on, no one has hacked the computer, no one is running a clone AP with your laptop BSSID/ESSID. It is normal to see a BSSID with "Direct" at the beginning for those devices that are able to accept Direct Connections, make Wifi Direct connections for Casting.
    Last edited by bro67; 02 Feb 2023 at 23:48.
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  9. Posts : 9
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #19

    bro67 said:
    You are showing a Wifi Direct BSSDI, which I have posted info on that and stated multiple times why you are seeing that. Again, nothing nefarious is going on, no one has hacked the computer, no one is running a clone AP with your laptop BSSID/ESSID. It is normal to see a BSSID with "Direct" at the beginning for those devices that are able to accept Direct Connections, make Wifi Direct connections for Casting.
    It is not normal for me to see this. I haven't used my laptop to cast anything, nor is there any reason it would be necessary when my laptop is connected to my normal WiFi as broadcast by my AP. Thanks for ruling out there is any nefarious activity going on but I am interested in finding out why my laptop is sometimes broadcasting an SSID, if nothing else it consumes battery and produces some amount of interference as it overlaps my normal 5GHz network. I noticed it on again today, I went to mobile hotspot in the network settings and it was not enabled. I opened device manager and disabled the network device that it was using and another was created immediately and the ssid persisted. I then removed the new device altogether and it finally was turned off.

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    bro67 said:
    You are showing a Wifi Direct BSSDI, which I have posted info on that and stated multiple times why you are seeing that. Again, nothing nefarious is going on, no one has hacked the computer, no one is running a clone AP with your laptop BSSID/ESSID. It is normal to see a BSSID with "Direct" at the beginning for those devices that are able to accept Direct Connections, make Wifi Direct connections for Casting.
    I don't understand your posts. First off, you state repeatedly that my laptop is not broadcasting anything. You then share a techdoc from juniper, which states
    As a wireless user you are concerned only with the broadcast SSIDs
    . Note the term Broadcast. We've established there is no other device mimicing my laptop, and indeed I have used the WiFi Analyzer app on my Android to confirm that my computer is indeed BROADCASTING this SSID.

    So when you repeatedly state my laptop is not broadcasting anything, despite the very basic concept of an SSID relying on broadcasts, it makes me question your motivation. Are you here to give advice in order to trick yourself into believing you are an expert, for an ego-boost? Or are you here to help?

    It's hard to trust the help from someone who responds with confidence and certainty, multiple times, with a statement that is flat out wrong. So either correct yourself and acknowledge the laptop is broadcasting, or stop frustrating users while you play pretend IT expert to feel some type of way.

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    Update: Laptop has been asleep since this morning. I had noticed the laptop broadcasting a 5GHz SSID as before. I then had it charging, powered on, and when I checked again, did not see the broadcast SSID. I unplugged the laptop and it sat with lid closed, in sleep, when for the first time I checked the Network Pro Analyzer app and saw it broadcasting in the 2.4GHz spectrum, also overlapping my 2.4GHz network on channel 11. The 5GHz "mystery hotspot" was on channel 36, shared with my normal 5GHz network.

    I have used miracast successfully maybe twice on this laptop over the past 3-4 years since I bought it new. I have Samsung smart tv's (2 of the same model) and that is the only display I ever projected to. I attempted that last night, since everyone seems to think this is related to Miracast. The Samsung TV showed a notification prompting to allow the Laptop to connect. I hit accept, and a few minutes pass while the laptop is "loading" or attempting to connect. It then silently fails with no dialogue and I never am able to cast the screen, which is as I remember the experience throughout ownership.

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    Resolved:

    WiFi-DIRECT SID broadcasts are an artifact of allowing the PC to be projected to.

    There IS a GUI for turning this on and off:

    Settings -> Projecting to this PC -> set to "Always OFF"

    Haven't seen it since.
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