WiFi response difference between two similar machines

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  1. Posts : 16,958
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #31

    Paul - Paul is not getting any EventID 55 events recorded.

    Paul - If you try Paul's suggestion and it works then it indicates that you have an error in Event viewer itself rather than in event logging. In that case I suggest you download NirSoft FullEventLogView as it reads event logs directly so would act as an alternative.
    - I use it in conjunction with Event viewer because its single chronological view contrasts so much with what I've set up in Event viewer's Custom views.
    - I think it will be unwieldy on its own but it's better than a kick up the rse.

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 15 Sep 2022 at 03:22.
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  2. Posts : 116
    10pro 20H2 19042.1237
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       #32

    Thank you Paul Black

    Crikey .... that worked. nearly a thousand rows in Notepad++
    And latest time/date matches current events.

    Paul

    - - - Updated - - -

    And thank you Denis ... again.

    Have that event viewer from nirsoft now and it is trundling away in background while I type this (and continue the punch-up with Orange)
    Surprising myself that my head is coping with multiple things at once. So some good news.

    Paul

    - - - Updated - - -

    And now the test begins ....... very many rows.
    Have not read how to filter yet.

    Paul
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  3. Posts : 16,958
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #33

    Paul1,

    To filter the results to mimic the Event viewer, Custom view:-

    NirSoft FullEventLogView, Options, Advanced options
    then set these two parameters
    WiFi response difference between two similar machines-ev-felv-trimmed.png
    EventID 55
    Log ["Channel"] Microsoft-Windows-UniversalTelemetryClient/Operational

    If this works then you are back in business for simply having to export results once a day [or whenever you wish].

    Do let me know if the results show up,
    Denis
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  4. Posts : 116
    10pro 20H2 19042.1237
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       #34

    Just checked that this machine is updated ..... last checked an hour ago with "Windows Update" stating "You're up to date"
    Have feature updates for version 21H2 on this machine, and some cumulatives.
    Paul

    - - - Updated - - -

    Have done the Advanced Properties fields but cannot find the custom view pane on the right of your image.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ah ha, just realised that right hand side is from your own thing.
    FullEventViewer is running but nothing yet ... have set auto refresh to 10 seconds. No current disconnects so no events to log ?
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  5. Posts : 16,958
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #35

    Paul,

    The right-hand one was Event viewer. I thought it would help you see that I was just suggesting the same 'Custom view' that I had done before [for Event viewer].
    The left-hand one is all you need to set up in the Nirsoft one.

    1 Please confirm that you are seeing the results in the Nirsoft tool.
    - You do not need to auto-refesh it for now.

    2 You can also run a single line command to export its results.
    - Once you can see the results in the Nirsoft tool, you know that it works.
    Now close it.
    Run this command but change
    - - the path of the Nirsoft tool to wherever you've stuck it [in place of my C:\Tools\External\NirSoft\FullEventLogView\x64]
    - - the path of the output file to wherever you want it [in place of my D:\Desktop]
    Code:
    C:\Tools\External\NirSoft\FullEventLogView\x64\FullEventLogView.exe /EventIDFilter 2 /EventIDFilterStr "55" /ChannelFilter 2 /ChannelFilterStr "Microsoft-Windows-UniversalTelemetryClient/Operational" /scomma "D:\Desktop\EventID55Log.csv"
    Then you'll be able to open that file in Excel to see the records you want.
    - It defaults to records for the last week but that can be adjusted if you need to.

    Your last comment above makes me think you are not seeing those events.
    But you were in Powershell, which reads the same logs.


    Denis
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  6. Posts : 16,958
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #36

    Paul,

    Here are my results from running that command on the NirSoft tool, opened in Excel then formatted, sorted into most recent first & with a results formula in the extra [green] column just like I showed you before but this time the formula checks the G column
    =RIGHT(G2,LEN(G2)-27)

    WiFi response difference between two similar machines-eventid55log.png
    My careless reformatting messed up the time cells in this list.


    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 15 Sep 2022 at 13:23.
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  7. Posts : 116
    10pro 20H2 19042.1237
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       #37

    Sadly nothing in FullEventViewer window nor the standard event viewer either.
    Just done a re-run of Paul Black's code and noted ......... they are all thus ...... with this example being the most recent.
    Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Processor-Power 15/09/2022 15:25:43 105993 Information 55 Processor 7 in group 0
    This time stamp is one minute after the last disconnect but the other recent entries do not even get close to a disconnect.

    Spooky ......
    Paul

    FullEventViewer now changed to "Show events from all times" ....... = nothing.

    - - - Updated - - -

    And now for something completely different .......
    Orange are going to send a human to check the underground cables......
    Wonder just how they will try that ........
    Would not trust the first pair that arrived here to even find a telegraph pole but the second pair were much better.
    Perhaps they just put meters of some sort at either end ..........
    BUT ... (as always) the arriving end of the cables is unknown and probably kilometres away.
    Oh what fun we are having ......... and about to have.
    Paul
    Last edited by Pavl; 15 Sep 2022 at 11:51. Reason: added "for all times"
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  8. Posts : 16,958
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #38

    The Windows Event viewer, Custom view definition we used and the NirSoft FullEventLogView, Options, Advanced options filter definition we used both read the same event in the same internal logs.

    Paul Black's suggested powershell command is reading a different internal log. It is not reporting the same events as the others.

    You need to change Paul Black's command to
    {Once again, substitute your own desired folder path in place of my D:\Desktop\Paul-InternetRecorder but keep things simple by using one without any spaces and without any special characters such as &}
    Code:
    PowerShell "Get-WinEvent -FilterHashtable @{LogName='Microsoft-Windows-UniversalTelemetryClient/Operational'; Id=55} -ErrorAction 'SilentlyContinue'  | Export-CSV -NoTypeInformation -Path D:\Desktop\Paul-InternetRecorder\PSEventsOutput.csv
    Note that I also took the liberty of changing the output type to csv so it could be examined more readily [in Excel].
    WiFi response difference between two similar machines-paulblack-winevent_55v3.png
    I'm sorry to say that, since the Event viewer & NirSoft results were empty, I expect these PS results to be empty as well.

    Do you already have an ISO / InstallUSB for your current Version & a copy of your latest CU & .Net updates?
    - If so then a Repair install procedure might fix your event logging problem.
    - You would want to run the latest CU & .Net updates afterwards.
    - Given your connectivity problem I don't suppose you would want to rely on doing any downloads so you will only want to try this if you have already got them.
    By the way, your comments in your posts & your system spec in TenForums disagree about what Version you are currently on.


    Denis
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  9. Posts : 16,958
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #39

    Pavl said:
    Orange are going to send a human to check the underground cables...... Wonder just how they will try that ........
    Paul,

    I think you would accept that if you were to send an instantaneous high pressure pulse down a water pipe that had defects [such as leaks, dents, ...] in it, you would be able to monitor the various echo patterns that those defects caused in water pressure along the length of the pipe.
    Well, electricity behaves in the same way; it echoes off any irregularity. We don't normally see it because it all happens so very quickly.
    Telecoms engineers have used specialist monitors to diagnose telephone line defects this way for almost a hundred years.

    All the best,
    Denis
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  10. Posts : 116
    10pro 20H2 19042.1237
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       #40

    Thank you Denis.

    Thank you for the diagnostic info ........ here's hoping it works ......
    Your suspicions were correct ... empty output from the powershell script (but correctly generated the csv).
    I am "familiar" with in place upgrade as that was the way I did it on this machine a year or so ago.
    Now that the phone company are sending humans I will let the event viewer issue rest as it has occupied a lot of your time.
    And the 24/7 use of ping from other machine does not seem to be causing problems as we are getting some periods (hours overnight) of stable connection.
    Thank you for all your help
    Paul
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