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  1. Posts : 1,136
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    Wireless Router Recommendations


    We have cable internet and will most likely switch to verizon fios. I'm not in this location though at the moment.



    Now the past month or so, the wifi sometimes doesn't work for a bit, then it works. Its a 2 story house and we leave the router and the modem in the 2nd floor because that is where we use to mainly use internet so we had it installed there.



    Now the wifi doesn't seem to be that strong in the 1st floor... and the basement. But there is also some wifi issues on the 2nd floor as well. Wireless router is netgear n600 and bought years ago. There was never much of an issue with it. If it matters the speed plan we get with our internet cable is 100mbps.



    Is it possible that our internet has wifi issues because the router has gotten too old so to speak?



    Now when we switch to verizon fios, which wireless router would you recommend we buy? Apparently i read verizon fios is 300mbps speed... and the netgear n600 router is only max 100mbps speed while ethernet wired... can anyone confirm this? So we need a router that has mbps of at least 300mbps if we want the full verizon fios speed right?




    I seen two routers on amazon that seem to have very good reviews.


    TP Link


    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079JD7F7G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1



    Netgear


    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R2AZLD2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1





    Thing that confuses me here is it says up to certain mbps on 2.4ghz and it can get a higher mbps on 5 ghz. But aren't routers in general almost ways set default 2.4 ghz? I don't think i ever made any changes to router with ghz but would any of these 2 routers be good enough?


    Someone mentioned my netgear n600 router is way too old and slow as its max 100mbps and probably like 90mbps when on wifi... so using Verizon Fios 300mbps plan... we won't even get 300mbps since our router is too old and slow.



    Thanks.
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  2. teots's Avatar
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    If you want a router with better coverage for your 2 storeys house, try this [URL="https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-a6/"]. It has five antennas and claimed to have better coverage. Also upgrade your network cable to CAT5e or better.
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  3. Posts : 2,062
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    Netgear N600 is around 9 years old lacks modern specs as regards Wireless and Network speeds.Obviously you need a more modern one.

    Modern Routers add both the 2.4 GHz channels and the 5 GHz channels. More channels and more recent modulation techniques have increased Wireless speeds. That assumes connecting devices are also capable which may not be the case.

    1 Gbps network ports these days are a minimum.

    The Netgear you have listed should do you, as would the TP-Link they are almost the same. With 3 x 5GHz channels better potential than the Archer A6 with just 2 x 5 GHz channels.
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  4. Posts : 1,136
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    So the netgear n600 router that i been using, it only gets max 100mbps via ethernet... and it will be a bit slower via wifi then right? Then why did it advertise 300mbps+300bmps then? I bought this router many years ago... might been 5 years or so... had no idea this router came out 10 years already. Again zero idea this router is that old and not modern anymore.





    Well the thing is i saw these two routers i listed and seem to have very good reviews and many reviews. Again i had no idea my router was so old... that its max 100mbps etc. I check amazon reviews for my old netgear n600 router and everyone say they don't get that much mbps which is true because i never got a speedtest result of it even coming close to 100mbps ever.





    So either of the two i posted would be more than sufficient right? If so, which one is better... the netgear or TP link? In terms of speed, both are up to 1750mpbs right? But why they say the tp link is 450mbps for 2.4ghz and 1300 mbps for 5ghz? Because if you are choosing either 2.4ghz or 5ghz, then aren't the max mbps you get going to be 1300 mbps and not 1750mbp? But why doesn't netgear router show an amount of mbps for 2.4ghz compared to 5ghz? Also in the tp link router, it says when comparing different tp link routers... this one is good for up to 300mbps. But other ones are good for up to 450mbps, or 1000mbps etc. So basically the TP Link is sort of like a budget router still? So they are saying if you got like 1000mbps speed... this tp link router wouldn't be good enough? Then again, it says if you are on 5ghz... its up to 1300mbps.



    I mean i see lot of routers that are $100 and $150 and up and i thought that isn't necessary because they wouldnt ever get that 1gb speed for internet. They only getting the 300mbps speed from verizon fios. So wouldn't getting a really expensive router that is $150+ just not necessary?




    Thanks.


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  5. TairikuOkami's Avatar
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    paulyjustin said:
    Now the wifi doesn't seem to be that strong in the 1st floor... and the basement.
    If the router supports 5Ghz, it uses it by default, but 2,4 has a better signal penetration via walls.
    You should check the area for free channels and try various setups to see signal's strength.

    WirelessNetView - Wireless Network Monitoring Software
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  6. Posts : 2,062
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    There is no way anyone can say which is better as we do not know your house layout or size or construction from the point of view of Wireless. Neither the other connected devices.

    The connected devices matter as their specs won't match with the Routers's WAP. It is the lowest spec device hardware that prevails in a real scenario.

    e.g. My old laptop has only single band 2.4 GHz wireless card up to 150 Mbs thus will not use the full capabilities of my router which is 300 Mbs at 2.4 GHz, and 1200 Mbs at 5 GHz.
    However a new Laptop would come with a dual band wireless card.

    So your purchase should be with the future in mind.

    he RF power/ERP of a WAP is limited for safety concerns though they make claims about aerials and beamforming etc largely just sales talk.

    The internet speedtest means nothing as that is your service you pay for with your ISP and presumably a modem of some sort. The Router is solely your internal network, the speed of which should be greater so as not to limit the Internet download speed.

    You pay a lot more for higher speed Routers but if your connected devices are modest lower speeds there is no point as you cannot use those higher speeds. The lowest speed of the 2 connected devices is what you get.
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  7. flhthemi's Avatar
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    This might be something to consider as well....wifi 6. Right now wifi devices you have aren't likely to have it on board but it's the new wave and if your router has it then you're ready for it as you replace devices in the future.

    Worth a read.
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  8. pparks1's Avatar
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    i've been running Google Wifi for a number of years now and it's been nothing short of fantastic. Setup is a snap, it pretty much never seems to crap out, and my speeds are always on point.
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  9. MisterEd's Avatar
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    Helmut said:
    There is no way anyone can say which is better as we do not know your house layout or size or construction from the point of view of Wireless. Neither the other connected devices.

    The connected devices matter as their specs won't match with the Routers's WAP. It is the lowest spec device hardware that prevails in a real scenario.

    e.g. My old laptop has only single band 2.4 GHz wireless card up to 150 Mbs thus will not use the full capabilities of my router which is 300 Mbs at 2.4 GHz, and 1200 Mbs at 5 GHz.
    However a new Laptop would come with a dual band wireless card.

    So your purchase should be with the future in mind.

    he RF power/ERP of a WAP is limited for safety concerns though they make claims about aerials and beamforming etc largely just sales talk.

    The internet speedtest means nothing as that is your service you pay for with your ISP and presumably a modem of some sort. The Router is solely your internal network, the speed of which should be greater so as not to limit the Internet download speed.

    You pay a lot more for higher speed Routers but if your connected devices are modest lower speeds there is no point as you cannot use those higher speeds. The lowest speed of the 2 connected devices is what you get.
    Most routers with dual-band (2.4 GHz & 5 GHz) are preconfigured with one SSID. I find it best to create separate SSIDs for each band. That way I can test each device an choose the band with the best performance.

    I have Comcast Gigabit Internet (1200 Mbps down & 35 Mbps up).

    Gateway (modem/router)
    Model: Comcast XB7-T (Technicolor CGM4331COM)
    LAN Speed (Ports 1-3): 1.0 Gbps LAN
    LAN Speed (Port 4): 2.5 Gbps WLAN/LAN
    Wi-Fi 1: 2.4 GHz 802.11 b/g/n/ax
    Wi-Fi 2: 5 GHz 802.11 a/n/ac/ax

    Using the Speedtest.net app

    My 2 desktops with 1000 Mbps LAN get 950 Mbps down
    My laptop with 100 Mbps LAN gets 95 Mbps down, 802.11g WiFi gets 19 Mbps down
    My laptop with 1000 Mbps LAN gets 950 Mbps down, 802.11n WiFi gets 52 Mbps down
    My laptop with 802.11ac WiFi gets 300-400 Mbps down
    My phone with 802.11ax WiFi gets 500-600 Mbps down
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  10. Posts : 1,136
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    Thread Starter
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    Okay but what does it mean when they say up to 1750mbps but then say 450mbps for 2.4ghz and 1300mbps for 5ghz?



    Because if that is what the wireless router advertises, doesn't it mean you get either max 450mbps if you use 2.4ghz... OR
    max 1300mbps if you use 5ghz?


    Most people use 5ghz or 2.4ghz? But if you have many walls in house, its better to use 2.4ghz?



    Im looking at a few other more expensive routers that was recommended



    Amazon.com

    Amazon.com



    These advertise up to 1.8ghz speed and say 574mbps on 2.4 ghz and 1200mbps on 5ghz.



    So these two routers... would be much more faster than the two i linked earlier right? Then again, isn't this not necessary since the verizon fios would be 300mbps speed... and thus this isn't even necessary? Thus the TP link and Netgear ones i linked earlier would be more than enough?


    But if in the future, let say i get 1000mbps internet speed from fios. Would the TP Link and Netgear i posted earlier but good enough? Or it wouldn't be able to take advantage of the full 1000mbps? It does say that TP Link the cheaper one i posted can do 450mbps for 2.4 ghz and 1300 mbps for 5ghz. If that is the case, how is this TP link not faster than the more expensive ones i linked then? I mean its faster 1300mbps>1200mbps on 5ghz... but slower 450mbps<574mpbs on 2.4ghz.
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