My own PC in "network" sometimes does not show

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  1. Posts : 154
    Win 10 Home x64
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    My own PC in "network" sometimes does not show


    hi guys,

    Random error, sometimes i don't see my own PC under "network" in the list of computers, i can see the other PC we have in the network, and if i go on the url bar and go \\MY_PC then i can see its shared files, then it magically appears in the list on the left hand side.

    Yesterday i tried to change network name, restart, nothing, then put back the old one, restart and it was there. Today i saw the name appearing earlier now disappeared again.

    "net view" gives me:

    net viewSystem error 64 has occurred.The specified network name is no longer available.

    and with nbtstat -r i can see only the "other" PC, under "NetBIOS Names Resolved By Broadcast", for some reason 4 times.

    any quick fix ?

    thanks,
    Gab
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  2. zebal's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 20H2 (Build: 19042.867)
       #2

    quick fix may be:
    enable NETBios (in adapter properties)
    enable IPv6 and all the rest of network adapter items.
    enable discovery of this PC in network and sharing in control panel.
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  3. Posts : 154
    Win 10 Home x64
    Thread Starter
       #3

    zebal said:
    quick fix may be:
    enable NETBios (in adapter properties)
    enable IPv6 and all the rest of network adapter items.
    enable discovery of this PC in network and sharing in control panel.
    i did the netbios > nothing.

    then i switched connection from private to public and then to private again, then the PC showed up.

    then put it on standby, resumed and it was there after a while.

    tested 2 more times with a standby, one time worked OK, after like 2 minutes of back from standby.

    this last one now it has been 2 minutes and it's still empty

    so bizarre

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  4. Samuria's Avatar
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    Windows doesnt look for pcs on the network it asks the master browser for a list any new pc that comes online can take 20 mins to be found windows was designed that all pcs would be on 24/7. When pc goes into sleep or offline its removed from MB
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  5. Posts : 154
    Win 10 Home x64
    Thread Starter
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    Samuria said:
    Windows doesnt look for pcs on the network it asks the master browser for a list any new pc that comes online can take 20 mins to be found windows was designed that all pcs would be on 24/7. When pc goes into sleep or offline its removed from MB
    Ok fair then why the other computer in the network is always visible in the network list to me? that one was in standby last night, we just turned on like 30 mins ago and i see it in my network list.

    Mine was also turned on and not appearing now. is that normal?

    last night i launched net view and i could find my PC OK

    right now i launched net view and i get:

    System error 64 has occurred.

    Now i went to \\ and added my network name, it appeared and now it shows in the list but i had to type it manually - OK,

    yet net view still shows the same error... can i just reset this somewhere and shouldn't it fix itself? :) thank you

    - - - Updated - - -

    oh and last thing, in the menu on the left hand side now my PC shows

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    but in the other listing, it doesn't, isn't that odd?

    My own PC in "network" sometimes does not show-image.png

    - - - Updated - - -

    it has been 18 minutes and now my PC is disappeared again in the list of PCs.

    if i don't type in the name manually, it's not there, yet the other PC still there. i didn't restart or standby.

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    I checked on the other laptop and both PCs are there as it should be. Just mystery.
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  6. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 29,907
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
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    Samuria said:
    Windows doesnt look for pcs on the network it asks the master browser for a list any new pc that comes online can take 20 mins to be found windows was designed that all pcs would be on 24/7. When pc goes into sleep or offline its removed from MB
    - only true if SMB1 is enabled, which it doesn't need to be unless you have Win 7 or earlier devices in the network, or certain NAS's. If SMB1 is enabled, the Computer Browser service runs - otherwise not.
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  7. Posts : 154
    Win 10 Home x64
    Thread Starter
       #7

    ok so i did some steps, i did what they said here:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...2-2710a7deab27

    Restarted, PC didn't show, so i had an idea, i stopped this service:

    My own PC in "network" sometimes does not show-image.png

    then started it again and immediately my PC appears in the list now. any clues?

    why it's on "tigger start"? in the screencap of that article is just on Automatic.

    thanks

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    dalchina said:
    - only true if SMB1 is enabled, which it doesn't need to be unless you have Win 7 or earlier devices in the network, or certain NAS's. If SMB1 is enabled, the Computer Browser service runs - otherwise not.
    I only have this as they suggested in that MS post now:

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  8. zebal's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 20H2 (Build: 19042.867)
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    @gabgab
    The thing with which you're dealing is present since discovery of Microsoft, you're not a lone.

    dalchina said:
    - only true if SMB1 is enabled, which it doesn't need to be unless you have Win 7 or earlier devices in the network, or certain NAS's. If SMB1 is enabled, the Computer Browser service runs - otherwise not.
    Maybe FDResPub service runs, but I had same issue with Win 10 only machines. both physical and VM.
    And I did set up everything according to tutorial from Brink.

    Share Files and Folders Over a Network in Windows 10

    Network sharing simply does not work as expected.
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  9. Posts : 154
    Win 10 Home x64
    Thread Starter
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    zebal said:
    @gabgab
    The thing with which you're dealing is present since discovery of Microsoft, you're not a lone.



    Maybe FDResPub service runs, but I had same issue with Win 10 only machines. both physical and VM.
    And I did set up everything according to tutorial from Brink.

    Share Files and Folders Over a Network in Windows 10

    Network sharing simply does not work as expected.
    LOL i know this was historically a problem but windows10 was MUUUUCH better than win7 etc, oh well, thanks for feedback guys, i found that switching off and on that service does the trick, not ideal but works.

    On win10 side... i am connected via a usb-c hub, that has the ethernet connection, etc so it's a bit more "firewalled" in that sense...perhaps.........
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  10. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 29,907
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
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    Some have used a bat file scheduled to run at log on such as the attached - but I believe this is normally to combat the delay which can occur if SMB1 is enabled and is not needed if all is Win 10 (other than some NAS devices).
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    Share Files and Folders Over a Network in Windows 10

    - note the additional caveat added by Brink on my suggestion:
    4
    Enable SMB Direct on each computer you want to share between. If you have an older USB network drive or connecting to a previous version of Windows (ex: "Windows 7") than Windows 10, then you will need to enable SMB1. (see screenshot below)

    SMB Direct will not be available in the Windows 10 Home edition. You will need to enable SMB1 instead.

    If you enable SMB1, be sure to uncheck Automatic Removal.
    It is recommended you do not enable SMB1 unless absolutely necessary for security reasons.

    If you enable SMB1, it will also enable and have the Computer Browser service to run which could potentially cause 10 minutes + delay in discovering a PC newly connected to the network.
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