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  1.    14 Aug 2015 #1
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    Windows 10 Pro 1511 build 10568.3

    Cold Reboot Resets Router


    This has started since the updates the other day.

    A power up boot (not a restart) does a router reset, not just of the Ethernet line, the whole kit and caboodle, including the external link. It happens in the first Windows startup phase i.e. when the smaller blue 'flag' is on show. Like all DSL routers I've ever known, mine takes a couple of minutes to to a reset.

    Whilst the reset is happening Windows tries to establish a link to the 'net, obviously it can't because the router hasn't completed its reset cycle. I've tried the network troubleshooter - guess what, it tells me to reset the router. Which I duly do and wait the customary couple of minutes for the ADSL led to show a solid light.

    After another minute or two Windows discovers it has a good connection. I then have to 'nudge' the programs that failed to start properly because they expect the 'net to be there, in order to get them to have another go at doing there start up 'thing'.

    As far as I'm concerned the claims that Windows 10 boots faster are now complete and utter nonsense.

    Anyone know how to INSTRUCT Windows to leave the &^%#*%* router alone

    The Router is a TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N ADSL2+ Modem Router TD-W8960N. Because I rarely use it, the Wifi capabilities are turned 'off'.

    pjd
    Last edited by pjd; 14 Aug 2015 at 15:55.
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  2.    14 Aug 2015 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Airdrie, Scotland
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    Windows 10 Pro x64, Linux

    I had a similar issue with Kaspersky and my VMNG 300 modem (Ambit 300 VirginMedia) and 3rd party router. Any attempt to access the config page of the modem to check power levels etc (192.168.100.1) with Kaspersky enabled locked the modem, all lights locked. Still baffled to this day. No solution, just thought I'd share. Kaspersky off was fine.

    Your issue must be querying or requesting a DHCP lease causes it to spaz out. Weird.

    Firmware update or try services.msc and settings DHCP to delayed start. Shot in the dark.
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  3.    14 Aug 2015 #3
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    Windows 10 Pro 1511 build 10568.3
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    @iBawbag - yeah you're probably right, poor thing can't lease an IP address, but it should wait for the ADSL light to go solid before it does that Ψ

    I must find a way to stop it resetting my router - there are other computers using it!

    pjd
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  4.    14 Aug 2015 #4
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    Airdrie, Scotland
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjd View Post
    @iBawbag - yeah you're probably right, but it should wait for the ADSL light to go solid before it does that Ψ
    No, because it's a router the OS doesn't know or care about the ADSL light. The router will give a DHCP internal IP lease (i.e 192.168.0.2 etc) whether or not it's connected to the network of your provider.

    example - If you unplug the RJ-11 (telephone cable) your router will still get an internal IP lease from the router.

    I don't have an ADSL connect but a cable connection, if I disconnect my coax from modem/router I`ll still get a lease.
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  5.    14 Aug 2015 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by iBawbag View Post
    No, because it's a router the OS doesn't know or care about the ADSL light. The router will give a DHCP internal IP lease (i.e 192.168.0.2 etc) whether or not it's connected to the network of your provider.

    example - If you unplug the RJ-11 (telephone cable) your router will still get an internal IP lease from the router.

    I don't have an ADSL connect but a cable connection, if I disconnect my coax from modem/router I`ll still get a lease.

    I must find a way to stop it resetting my router - there are other computers using it - they run 24*7 !!!!
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  6.    14 Aug 2015 #6
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    Try the DHCP suggestion or give them static IP's and check your security software.
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  7.    14 Aug 2015 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by iBawbag View Post
    Try the DHCP suggestion or give them static IP's.
    I'll go back to Win7 before I do that - it worked fine for 6 years and it's good for another 5.

    The other computers belong to other people. I volunteered to pioneer Win10, thus far my advice to the others is: - right now don't even think about upgrading to Win 10.

    What pisses me off is that things that were okay a week ago are failing today. The only s/w that's been updated since I installed 10 almost 2 weeks ago is Windows and Firefox.

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  8.    14 Aug 2015 #8
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    For the time being, I'll leave my machine on 24*7 - and send the power bills to bloody Microsoft.

    I'll also try 'Sleep' rather than 'Shut Down' - I tried it once on this machine, it failed to work properly, but it was only an 'I wonder what happens' test when I first installed 7 so I didn't bother trying to figure out why it failed.
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  9.    14 Aug 2015 #9
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    Perhaps turn of UPNP in the router, this is the only way a computer could control it.
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  10.    14 Aug 2015 #10
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    California
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    Kernel 4.x.x

    That is very odd. What router are you using? You may want to disable Windows automatically installing network devices.

    Something is wrong with the router.


    I would love to set my laptop between the router and your machine to see just wtf is going on... very peculiar.
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