I believer we are being lead like sheep when it comes to networking

So I assume if you are reading this 50% you're like hey but I know all about wans and 192 ips and how to pick a channel and such , but hey come on lets face it , can you really tell you have an optimized network ? you are utilizing the correct feature for your modem part / routing part / wifi part / wired part ?

every time i upgrade i see zillion new features and no serious improvement with lots of new options that i leave at default both router side and whatever ngff card i buy or usb network adapter or whatever .

Here is an example so I bought this intel ngff 9260 wifi network card for my laptop to pair with that ac router i have , when i checked in driver settings i see loads of oddly named features mostly turned off . googling them made it worse as the documentation for which were mostly done by people who had their brains fried at some point early in career or administrative assistance that has no communication with engineering department where they mention no benefits nor applications nor means to test if this feature works or not even etc . but lets face it , when i checked in manage known networks it did mention it is using the 802.11ac protocol on the 5ghz range to communicate with my router . so to me it was like meh , ok defaults are good .

Now intel ngff ax200 was out , now all the fuss , it has high priority , it will feel not kluged what so ever , it beam forms (which usually lead people who know little about physics believe we are actually being mocked by marketeers) , blahs blahs whatever , so on installing it now the driver has an entirely new and different set of features , most turned on or auto , but when it connects , it would just show it is using the 802.11n protocol on the 5ghz range (Dont try i have the N and 2.4ghz off even) .

So i started inquiring in official forums and they went like "hey don't worry the 802.11ac is same as 802.11n" ... Seriously ? so why i didn't have that with the 9260 ? and honestly why are we even buying new stuff ? you are leading us to believe the wifi 6 is two protocols ahead and that is like space age technology and yet still you are making it operate by the wifi 4 protocol ? i was even lead to more documents claiming that the wifi 6 protocol is still under development so right now working with the 802.11ac protocol is fine !

Sooooo just because you stamp new blahs every couple of months on same chip makes it better ? and we just now embrace it , feel proud , brag but seriously know and have no understanding of it and technically nothing new really ? pffft . I rest my case .

Nice post

This is just what i have tried to learn the last few years. Its all about Unicast and Multicast.

ipv4 is safer for you in my opinion. You dont want to be using ipv6 for a single secure connection, no way.
Im old school and dont use anything internet usage wise much different to 15 years ago. So im sticking with ipv4. If there is anything ipv6 on my machine, it either gets deleted or disabled from my router to Windows ipv6 dll files. I also disable ipv6 in my Lan properties.
Windows Defender Firewall gives you an idea of how popular it is becoming. Its full of ipv6 Multicast broadcast permission rules. I remove the lot, seeya!

Peace

here is another addition to same topic as i decided to re-open the case and tinker more :
Recommended Settings for 802.11ac Connectivity
in this post intel try to discuss which settings to use to try to elevate the protocol you use to reach the top level which is 802.11ac , so here by this is a confession the 802.11ax protocol which is WiFi6 that is getting all the late propaganda is a myth still but they make us buy the adapters already .

so i followed their instructions but still nothing , i was still bind to the 802.11n protocol , until i read an article on netgear forum indirectly claiming that "802.11ac protocol has to work on -only- 5GHz range" so I took that into practice and changed the recommended by intel :

802.11a/b/g Wireless Mode or Wireless Mode

Dual Band 802.11a/b/g or 802.11a/b/g

to : 5GHz 802.11a and now the protocol elevated , meaning the protocol actually downgrades if any aspect of the adapter is set to bellow 5GHz even if not operational which I believe is a bug in protocol .

so yea we are being fed lies and blahs and no authority even follows and test the crap we are being given .

Does your router have AC its simpler if it does to give it another name so you know your connecting to 5g ac

And Here is a funny tip from Amazon sellers , they are even re-branding 9260 chips to ax200 partly because there is no ax200 protocol out so if intel is fooling you into buying new chip that is only capable of delivering old technology then why don't sellers sell older chips with new technology stamp on it just ..


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Samuria said:

Does your router have AC its simpler if it does to give it another name so you know your connecting to 5g ac

plz don't start i have the 2.4GHz off in router trust me , i said it . nothing is wrongly configured , they just have broken protocols and mystical ones and i mentioned the only valid way to solve the problem .

P.S this post is just to prove we know little about networking and they are starting to use it against us and sell us bogus features and claims with no means to test it .

Right,

This sounds just like a typical Intel based motherboard system. They will initially design the CPU instructions, design chipset performance, NB/SB controllers, ram capabilities and so on.. Then they leave it upto the individual manufacturers to build any PCB design crap they like. Some add all the features of the new chipset, whereas some only add the specific parts, just so it barely works, but works.

Compare a Micro ATX motherboard with the same chipset as a server based Xeon motherboard. Wow, the difference is unbelievable. Micro ATX board supports bugger all, wont even do raid for instance, when the chipset is perfectly capable of it.

Some years i noticed something naughty. It was when cheap dash cams became popular, the supposed 720p dash cams. At the time we had all the latest technology available, but what these companies did, was use a very very old circuit board design which only supported Mpeg version 1 and USB v1 and just stretchd a 640 resolution to 720 with a fish eye type of controller, really bad.
So a 4gb SD card took about 4 hrs to copy a 15 minute video, to then find out it was crap and you had to delete the file.
I really hate this type of deceit when it comes to the public when they dont know otherwise. Its a form of mis-conduct somewhere down the line.

@Pluginz such example you mentioned is expected when you buy from a cheap manufacturer , however we are talking here about intel , they are the makers and they are the drivers provider . and this is only one example .

The idea of this post is to elaborate on that no one even knows what half the options of these adapters do mind you from other makers such as Realtek , or what are the difference in protocols except theoretical propagandas , or what are the hundred two lettered abbreviations in modems / routers toggle-able on or off do , people just think the more of these options the more sophisticated the thing is , just no one knows if these actually work or they are just dummy .

I even was clueless that it is possible that you get may be running an AC Wifi 5 adapter on older N 4 protocol just because they poorly integrate it to handle switching between 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz , I even bet you that the more readers reading this the more they realize they have been using their AC adapters in slow mode for years without even knowing what to look for .

And now them releasing hardware that revolves all around a certain cutting edge protocol without even releasing the protocol is them thinking we are just too dumb , which might be true , we have been just following whatever they say mindlessly when it comes to networking .

I am with you 100%

Okies so the technology moving forward in the wireless department will always pretty much all still stem from the same original design, and theyre just slowly adding tiny little small more efficient features to try and gain maximum performance of a particular architechture. There is really nothing new being added.

Look at the latest i7 9000 series processors. When you look at the longevity and overall performance, it has nothing on the original first generation i7 980x 6 core CPU. There aint that much difference. The technology is the same. They just try and stretch it out with supposed new more efficient electronics, its bullshit. Its really because they cant design anything new. Same as an engine. It will always only ever need 3 things. Fuel, air and a spark. You can have as many engine remaps as you want. Doesnt make it any faster than the oringal design.

When it comes to overall raw speed, for me ipv6 isnt going to make my computer any faster than it was before running ipv4. What ipv6 is, an escape route from the last 20 years of Microsoft and the likes bogging down the internet and overloading it pure shite. Basically ipv4 has run out of space.

Modern times dont see real computing. We only see an overloaded space wasting advertising malware data leeching multicast spread your data all over the internet bollox.

The mismash of letters in your router is the new ipv6 address formulation. Gotta get used to it. Im still struggling with it formulae, hard to remember. I reckon in the future they will eventually take away and remove ip4, leaving us no choice and follow the path !

Bring back the 56k modem

Digital Life said:

Do you have any other device connected to the Access point, The router will downgrade the protocol based on the device with the lowest speed.

Seriously I did mention earlier how to solve it , you and samurai just over looked it . You have to elevate the "Dual Band 802.11a/b/g or 802.11a/b/g" to " 5GHz 802.11a" in adapter . This has nothing to do with the router .

And lets face it now .. WHERE DID YOU GET THIS PEACE OF INFORMATION ! like if you come to think of it how would a device connect on the "5GHz AC" Network if it wasn't a "5GHz AC Device" for it to downgrade the protocol ? People stop assuming things like they were facts .

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Pluginz said:

I am with you 100%

Okies so the technology moving forward in the wireless department will always pretty much all still stem from the same original design, and theyre just slowly adding tiny little small more efficient features to try and gain maximum performance of a particular architechture. There is really nothing new being added.

Look at the latest i7 9000 series processors. When you look at the longevity and overall performance, it has nothing on the original first generation i7 980x 6 core CPU. There aint that much difference. The technology is the same. They just try and stretch it out with supposed new more efficient electronics, its bullshit. Its really because they cant design anything new. Same as an engine. It will always only ever need 3 things. Fuel, air and a spark. You can have as many engine remaps as you want. Doesnt make it any faster than the oringal design.

When it comes to overall raw speed, for me ipv6 isnt going to make my computer any faster than it was before running ipv4. What ipv6 is, an escape route from the last 20 years of Microsoft and the likes bogging down the internet and overloading it pure shite. Basically ipv4 has run out of space.

Modern times dont see real computing. We only see an overloaded space wasting advertising malware data leeching multicast spread your data all over the internet bollox.

The mismash of letters in your router is the new ipv6 address formulation. Gotta get used to it. Im still struggling with it formulae, hard to remember. I reckon in the future they will eventually take away and remove ip4, leaving us no choice and follow the path !

Bring back the 56k modem

You are just creating a boggy to blame every thing on , no its not all about IPV6 mind you lets face it , back when they said we are running out of ips as IPV4 has a limit and came out with IPV6 the majority of ISPs never adopted it but rather adopted the idea of sub-domain IPS , cheap and effective , you can route an entire company through one ip and infinite amount of subdomains if the tough gets going , so no IPV4 isn't coming down any soon trust me and the more added features in routers and adapters aren't to support IPV6 manufacturers know better .