Can't migrate from Linksys E1200 router to E5400


  1. Posts : 20
    Windows 10 1903 build 18362.418
       #1

    Can't migrate from Linksys E1200 router to E5400


    I have a non-wireless self-built Win 10 1903 tower computer with an ASUS B85M-E (no wireless) motherboard connected to a Cisco/Linksys E1200 modem-router that uses PPPoE to a cable modem connecting to the Web via fiber, which works mostly OK, but want to replace the E1200 with an E5400 I bought, because the former's getting TLS timeouts to https:// site subdomains, possibly due to its bad (over-updated?) BIOS.

    I can log in to the E1200's control interface with http://192.168.1.1/ fine and copied out connection data, but if I power it down, then switch all cables to the same ports on the new E5400 (AC1200), and power that up after rebooting the computer, I can't access myrouter.local or http://192.168.1.1/ on it at all, even when having set connection parameters the same as the E1200's via my wireless laptop, where I can access the 5400's control interface fine.

    What procedure should I use to get the E5400 to work on the tower computer as the E1200 does, via PPPoE? I can't use wireless connection to the tower computer via the router's wireless because the MOBO doesn't have its own wireless capability, other than via the outboard router. Guess I'm missing a step or steps somewhere... Do I have to do something like clone a MAC from the E1200 to the E5400 by manual copy? Thanks for the help!
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  2. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #2

    bachware said:
    I have a non-wireless self-built Win 10 1903 tower computer with an ASUS B85M-E (no wireless) motherboard connected to a Cisco/Linksys E1200 modem-router that uses PPPoE to a cable modem connecting to the Web via fiber, which works mostly OK, but want to replace the E1200 with an E5400 I bought, because the former's getting TLS timeouts to https:// site subdomains, possibly due to its bad (over-updated?) BIOS.

    I can log in to the E1200's control interface with http://192.168.1.1/ fine and copied out connection data, but if I power it down, then switch all cables to the same ports on the new E5400 (AC1200), and power that up after rebooting the computer, I can't access myrouter.local or http://192.168.1.1/ on it at all, even when having set connection parameters the same as the E1200's via my wireless laptop, where I can access the 5400's control interface fine.

    What procedure should I use to get the E5400 to work on the tower computer as the E1200 does, via PPPoE? I can't use wireless connection to the tower computer via the router's wireless because the MOBO doesn't have its own wireless capability, other than via the outboard router. Guess I'm missing a step or steps somewhere... Do I have to do something like clone a MAC from the E1200 to the E5400 by manual copy? Thanks for the help!
    Hi there
    I can't answer question but for testing you can get very cheap USB-->wifi adapter which is useful in cases where you can't connect by ethernet etc -- even if the speed is the slow ones at 54mb/s . These things are only pennies and useful when you need to test this sort of thing and only wifi is feasable.

    Cheap ones for around 6 USD -- simply plug into a USB port (even USB 2 is OK for this type of testing).

    Now you should be able to access the router via wireless.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. Posts : 1,680
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       #3

    Why use PPPoE? Just run a cable from the computer's network jack into the router.
    That's what everyone does. Everywhere in the world.
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  4. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #4

    margrave55 said:
    Why use PPPoE? Just run a cable from the computer's network jack into the router.
    That's what everyone does. Everywhere in the world.
    Hi there

    what's PPPoE -- never heard of it --is this some weird system that kids long ago (before mobiles / internet etc) used to play with: old tin cans and bits of string connecting them to act as telephones.

    Surely everybody on the planet (at least on home / domestic systems) just connects a Hub / Router --either self purchased or supplied by ISP to a cable connection (or in some few backward places --I believe UK is still counted in "Internet Slow lane" -- to an ADSL filter on an old fashioned land telephone line --in a few years people won't even know what those are any more !!!) .


    Even in UK I've helped a couple of people with Internet / ISP connection -- BT still has the ADSL thingey but the home hub works perfectly well for typical speeds you can get over there, Virgin and a few others have direct cable.

    The hub will just connect to ISP with the required logon credentials and protocol and all the end user needs to do is just logon to the hub (usually 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1) and set up wifi id, passwords, DHCP etc etc.

    Funnily enough one of the fastest Internet speeds you can get in UK is from KCOM in a most unlikely place --Kingston upon Hull -- amazing that a city not particularly wealthy seems to have fastest Internet in the UK !!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 14,022
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #5

    For me the PoE part is Power over Ethernet, uses a CAT5 or CAT6 from the Modem inside to run power and data to the Wireless DSL dish on the other end of the house aimed at an antenna about 2 miles away on a hill. I get about 12Mbps. I have a few clients that use the same, maximum line-of-sight range is 15 miles but the furthest client was 12 miles, a little iffy in bad weather but otherwise good, better than Dial-up and Satellite.

    The ISP doesn't limit whatever Router a person wants to use.
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  6. Posts : 1,680
    X
       #6

    Nope.
    PoE is power over ethernet.
    PPPoE is the PPP protocol over ethernet. A totally different beast.
    Not sure why ANYONE would be using the latter these days.

    Some 20 years ago it was a way to bridge your LAN onto the provider's fiber.
    Back then that would get you 10 Mbps (woo-hoo!) at a time when the rest of us suffered with 1 Mbps.
    Few people could get the fiber connection ... it seems to have been a special case.
    So again ... why use PPPoE today? There's no reason.

    If you have cable modem you use DOCSIS. Done. No PPPoE.
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  7. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #7

    The short and only answer is yes, you can swap out routers with no problems. The router has zero effect on your OS, same as the OS has zero effect on whatever routing/access point/network switch/modem/gateway/emta that you choose to use.

    As gor those timeouts, it would not be your equipment causing it, it would be however that site/domain/server/network/some router incorrectly setup between you and the hosting site at fault.
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  8. Posts : 9,790
    Mac OS Catalina
       #8

    margrave55 said:
    Why use PPPoE? Just run a cable from the computer's network jack into the router.
    That's what everyone does. Everywhere in the world.
    There are still some ISP’s out there that require you to still use PPPoE.
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