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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 28
    Windows 10 Pro
       06 Aug 2015 #1

    Accessing default shares


    I have two Windows 10 PCs on the same home network and I can't access the default shares on either one of them, I keep getting 'Access denied'.

    Any ideas?
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  2. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 15
    win 10
       06 Aug 2015 #2

    WebMaximus said: View Post
    I have two Windows 10 PCs on the same home network and I can't access the default shares on either one of them, I keep getting 'Access denied'. Any ideas?
    When you shared the folders, did you then go to the security tab to allow users?
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  3.    06 Aug 2015 #3

    Hi there

    Local accounts / Ms accounts or a mixture.

    It makes a difference.
    Different solutions for each scenario.

    After bootup too you might have to get into Network on File explorer and hit Refresh a few times -- Network connection sometimes drops out if you haven't used either machine for a while. (Windows problem --not ISP / Router one).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 28
    Windows 10 Pro
       06 Aug 2015 #4

    evansnp said: View Post
    When you shared the folders, did you then go to the security tab to allow users?
    Thanks but that's not applicable for default shares since you can't modify the permissions (or at least not in the normal way).
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  5. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 28
    Windows 10 Pro
       06 Aug 2015 #5

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there

    Local accounts / Ms accounts or a mixture.

    It makes a difference.
    Different solutions for each scenario.

    After bootup too you might have to get into Network on File explorer and hit Refresh a few times -- Network connection sometimes drops out if you haven't used either machine for a while. (Windows problem --not ISP / Router one).

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I've tried using both MS and local accounts but not a mixture of both. Regardless I'm not able to access \\computer\c$ for example.

    When I tried this with local accounts I used the normal syntax for the username (computer\user) and when using my MS account I wasn't sure what syntax to use so I went with the email address associated with my MS account.

    Neither method worked and I got 'Access denied' in both cases so I would very much like to understand how this is supposed to work in Win10. Clearly things changed vs previous versions of Windows because I never had a problem accessing default shares before.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,309
    win 10 Insider
       06 Aug 2015 #6

    Can't do it here, either, but I am not really surprised as that sort of access seems to bypass conscious efforts to control who can access what.
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  7. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 28
    Windows 10 Pro
       06 Aug 2015 #7

    To a certain degree I agree but when having two computers on your own home network I think it's really convenient being able to easily access all drives and files on both computers regardless what computer you're in front of, to be able to copy and move files between the computers etc.

    If MS decided to remove this functionality I don't understand why they kept the default shares in the first place.
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  8. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 37
    Win10 Pro
       06 Aug 2015 #8

    WebMaximus said: View Post
    I have two Windows 10 PCs on the same home network and I can't access the default shares on either one of them, I keep getting 'Access denied'.

    Any ideas?
    there are no such things as "default shares" you really need to be more specific on the exact share you are trying to access.
    Public folders are the only shares that windows defaults out and even then its iffy i dont even see any public shares in my windows 10 machine, in fact NOTHING is shared when i click my computer in the network. if i create a share it does show up. but since Windows 10 is worse than Windows 8 for accessing SMB shares, good luck, i fight it all night at home and our testing at the office for our machines we will be shipping to customers is just insane, our program will puke it 100 times a day on windows 10 because it never is able to access a shared folder for very long then it breaks for no reason.

    if you are in a homegroup you also need to setup the 2nd PC on the same homegroup with the same password as the 1st PC.

    if you didnt create any shares by right clicking a folder or file and sharing it out with 'Everyone' or specific users and set the read/write permissions then windows has nothing to share.
    homegroup's will setup shares based on what you told it but since homegroups are the most rediculous thing to come out of Windows since WinME, i cant help you with that.
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  9. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 28
    Windows 10 Pro
       06 Aug 2015 #9

    Windows 10 does have the same so called default shares as every previous version of Windows have had. If you go to manage your PC you'll find them under the Shares section and by default they are IPC$ and your drive(s) such as c$, d$ and so on. The reason you don't see them is the $ sign at the end of the name indicating it's a hidden share.

    However in Windows 10 they obviously changed something since it doesn't seem to be possible accessing these in the same way you could in previous versions of Windows (Windows 8 excluded since I never tried that version).

    Both my computers belong to the same workgroup and are on the same network.
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  10. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 37
    Win10 Pro
       06 Aug 2015 #10

    I am not in front of my pc so you will have to provide proof that those ancient windows 98 admin shares are still active in windows 10. Those were disabled and not even viewable since xp days. Let alone vista 7 8 and now 10.
    plus those are a huge security risk which was plugged up long ago last I knew those had to be enabled and heavily altered on the permissions to even access them.

    no offense but you would be foolish to even want to use those shares. All someone needs is an open port on your router and they are in and all over your shares, not just shared but full on full open admin shares.

    just share your files like you are supposed to and they will show up. I shared my storage drive and set access to an account and I was able to view them and log into the share and do what I needed to.
    set access to everyone and its viewable to everyone.

    dont you suppose they are not viewable for a very good reason?

    miscrosoft account login excluded, that whole thing is just a lost cause.
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