Advice setting up NAS

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  1. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #11

    Maximusheadroom said:
    Some great advice there Thank you
    Ive had no luck with USB stick in the router I'm going to have a look at filezilla that's been mentioned but I think soon as the pc is shut down the USB in the router will disappear.

    I do actually have a redundant HP proliant t an n40 I think, that was being used as a media server a couple of years ago I'll dig that out andchaveca look but it does sound like a daunghting task, obviously the synology sounds like the easiest way forward but I don't want to spend (haven't got) the money.

    Hi there

    @Maximusheadroom

    the ProLiant type servers are simple and easy to set up. Also being servers they are designed to operate at low power and reliable to run 24 hrs a day.

    Install a Linux system on it . Loads out there and are 100% Free. Suggest probably for a beginner Linux Mint or UBUNTU are quite "Windows Like". Try first installing these as Virtual Machines on your current Windows computer to get used to running and installing Linux. I wouldn't advise attempting Windows itself on those ProLiant servers - you can't boot easily Windows from an internal USB (it can be done but it's fiddly) and you need to get the correct Windows AHCI drivers -- a pain anyway -- Linux just installs !!!. You also don't have Windows licensing / activation problems either as Linux is FREE. Also for a server you don't want the overhead of a full blown Windows desktop OS especially on a lower powered CPU.

    If you can use a Linux system -- start with a GUI. You can set the boot partition on to an internal USB device - once the system has booted it doesn't need that partition any more. It can then load the OS (automatically via the boot process) to say an SSD which is a great idea - especially if the SSD doesn't boot directly -- connect an SSD to a port where a CD/DVD is usually connected. The OS then runs from the SSD nicely and efficiently.

    For the HDD's ensure the MDADM program is installed in your Linux system -- this is Linux's software RAID and it's very fast and efficient. I use RAID 0 as I have backup anyway of my data and it is incredibly fast. You also can mix HDD sizes with Linux RAID --- Using RAID 0 means all the disks in the array are aggregated as 1 big HDD and I/O optimised for speed --- downsize is if you lose 1 HDD in the array the whole lot go -- but HDD's these days are reliable and if you have backup just re-build the array -- the speed is so much worth it.

    For sharing the disks just use SAMBA -- if you get stuck just post back - I can link you to some decent stuff on that.

    This way especially if you have one of those old servers is so much cheaper than a dedicated NAS system and you can install all sorts of things on it too.

    For video - you could use standard RDP to access the NAS server --you don't really need to logon to it much once it's up and running anyway or if it has built in video just temporarily plug in monitor via vga connector or whatever -- you don't need a separate high quality graphics card if there's one built in as it's a server !!!

    (You can install another graphics card on those servers if you must but check -- might be 1/2 size one you need -- personally I don't bother -- using RDP from a laptop etc was just fine for me).

    These things work a treat -- I'm using 2 as NAS servers -- the only time I re-boot if changing HDD's (the don't have hot swappable HDD's) or updating the Linux kernel (very rarely). Otherwise they just run 24 hrs a day 7 days a week out of the way. If you don't have a lan connection for these though just plug the built in ether net connector to a lan connector on a wifi extender -- I don't want my boxes near the router which is by my main TV !!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Last edited by jimbo45; 08 Jan 2019 at 05:42.
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  2. Posts : 245
    W10 Home Version 21H1 Build 19043.1055
       #12

    Another option if you have a spare microserver lying around anyway is to put the Synology DSM OS (a custom linux variant) onto it.
    Details (and caveats) here...Xpenology - How to Install Synology DSM on your Custom Built NAS - NAS Compares
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  3. Posts : 237
    windows 10 Build 20215
       #13

    Both my pc's and phone have One Drive on them. Pictures, documents , etc. are available on all at the same time. Only trouble would be if we got a big thundershower out of the cloud.
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  4. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #14

    neveready said:
    Both my pc's and phone have One Drive on them. Pictures, documents , etc. are available on all at the same time. Only trouble would be if we got a big thundershower out of the cloud.
    Hi there
    @neveready

    I think the whole issuesevolve around volume of data and how many people want to access it.

    I let around 12 people access my media collection stuff

    I doubt whether you would find any of these cloud services allowing you to have a load of users on it with around 15 TB of data on the drives -- plus backing up is also problematical. What also happens if the cloud server goes down -- so long as my LAN is working people on the LAN can access my servers -- doesn't need external Internet (obviously from outside the LAN that's another issue).

    Like all these things it depends on the tasks you need to do - for some people cloud service (onedrive etc) might be more than sufficient. I don't think though relaying / streaming TV / Netflix etc to users who can't access content normally because of stupid geo blocking policies would work on one drive. !!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 237
    windows 10 Build 20215
       #15

    I agree 100%. I just got the impression he was looking for a way to back up his phone and pc. Did not think he was talking about sharing. As far an cloud server going down note the thunderstorm remark.
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  6. Posts : 66
    windows 10 Ver1909 build 18363,1256
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       #16

    OK thanks for info, the synology sounds interesting and easier route if everythings set up already would be a lot easier than starting from scratch, stuck for time with work hopefully be able to have a look soon
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  7. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #17

    Maximusheadroom said:
    OK thanks for info, the synology sounds interesting and easier route if everythings set up already would be a lot easier than starting from scratch, stuck for time with work hopefully be able to have a look soon
    Hi there
    I know it takes time but if you have the old server then you can save a whole slew of money and have quite a bit of fun in learning too !!! Anyway as you can see there are all sorts of solutions available. Doing one doesn't say precluding another choice as a long term project when you have more time.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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