How to share folders with a specific user on another computer

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  1.    2 Weeks Ago #21

    How do I check the owner? I looked up TreeSize Free, but I've never used it, and certainly never used it to look up owner of a file, and I'm not sure what your screenshot is showing.

    When I check the owner in Windows 10 using properties > Security tab, the owner of my music folder is
    "MERVIL-PC\Brendon", which is my user account on my desktop.
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       2 Weeks Ago #22

    Mervil said: View Post
    How do I check the owner? I looked up TreeSize Free, but I've never used it, and certainly never used it to look up owner of a file, and I'm not sure what your screenshot is showing.

    When I check the owner in Windows 10 using properties > Security tab, the owner of my music folder is
    "MERVIL-PC\Brendon", which is my user account on my desktop.
    In my case, some System account is owner (as this is special folder - library)

    In treesize, right click on columns gives you menu to select additional columns. Select Owner - in my case it is system account - a lot of numbers...

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    If you want to reset permissions to default, ther is a useful tool:

    tweaking |Windows repair

    But be careful, only check one fix at the time (and in safe mode). Backup would be fine before you mess with system anyway. Macrium free is used by many here.
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  3.    2 Weeks Ago #23

    Ok! I got TreeSize Free. I browsed to my music folder, and the owner is listed as "Administrators". Is that appropriate?
    What should I do next?
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       2 Weeks Ago #24

    Mervil said: View Post
    Ok! I got TreeSize Free. I browsed to my music folder, and the owner is listed as "Administrators". Is that appropriate?
    What should I do next?
    Strange that group (Administrators) is owner. Should be specific, but leave it for now.

    Check if there is any problem with effective access (permissions). in music folder properties (right click on it) select security / Advanced and check Effective access. All actions for your account should be enabled (below is example for Adinistrators group on my Music folder :
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  5.    1 Week Ago #25

    Ooooo. Weird.
    The Administrators group has almost no access, other than Read Permissions, and Change Permissions. It says access is limited by "Share".
    For my User Account, I DO have all permissions.
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       1 Week Ago #26

    Mervil said: View Post
    Ooooo. Weird.
    The Administrators group has almost no access, other than Read Permissions, and Change Permissions. It says access is limited by "Share".
    For my User Account, I DO have all permissions.
    Then make the share with your User account.

    And enable inheritance for top Music folder..
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  7.    1 Week Ago #27

    The thing is, I HAVE been making the share with my User account, and its not working.
    Last edited by Mervil; 1 Week Ago at 15:28.
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  8.    1 Week Ago #28

    This whole thing is so much more complicated than it should be.
    Let me try to be as clear and detailed as I possibly can.
    On my main Desktop computer (I'm calling it a desktop computer, because it sits on my desktop, and has nothing to do with the "Desktop" folder that is created by Windows in my User directory), I have a separate hard drive (my E: drive) where I keep all my music, drivers, and any other downloaded file I want to keep long term and don't want to have to worry about losing if I have to format my OS (C:) drive.
    Now that the homegroup feature is gone, I want to share my music folder with everyone on my network. This music folder is located at "E:\Music", and is NOT the User\Music folder that windows creates; it is my own user created folder.
    My goal is to give Everyone that connects to my network read-only access to the folder. But when I am using my Laptop (which does not have any of my music on it), I want to be able to access my "E:\Music" with Full Control.
    Sharing the "E:\Music" folder using all typical methods (following the tutorials for sharing files posted in this forum, following instructions from YouTube videos, etc) has not worked as expected. The folder and files are shared, but with read-only access. As my user name (which is Brendon) on my Desktop and my Laptop are exactly the same, I expected that by granting the "Brendon" user Full Control to the "E:\Music" folder, I would have full control from my Laptop. However, I can only get read-only access from my Laptop.
    Even if I grant the "Everyone" user group Full Control to my "E:\Music" folder, I still only get read-only access no matter what computer I am using to access the "E:\Music" folder.
    It appears there is probably some sort of permissions issue. At the onset of trying to figure this out, I was changing some file names in my "E:\Music" folder on my Desktop computer (which, again, is where the folder and files are actually located), and I was getting an error message that I must have administrator privileges to make the changes; press OK to continue. I would press OK, and it would make the changes. This was weird to me, and I didn't think it should be happening as my own user account is set up as an administrator (and is the ONLY user account on my Desktop). This is something that has been happening for at least a year, and happens on several other folders on my computer, even some on my C: drive. I got tired of it happening, googled the problem, and found that I could "take ownership" of the folders. So, using the right-click menu for the "E:\Music" folder, I went to Properties, and the Security tab, hit the Advanced button and changed the owner to me (the "Brendon" user). This stopped the stupid message from popping up every time I changed a file name.
    However, now I'm thinking it either messed up the privileges for sharing, or was just another symptom of a greater issue which is also messing with the privileges.
    When I consider the "Administrators" user group, I would think that it should have all permissions/privileges for a folder and its files, but the "Administrators" user group for my "E:\Music" folder has Effective Access to only 2 out of 14 Permissions with "Access limited by": "Share".
    Other folders on my E: drive do NOT have this limitation, and "Administrators" user group has 14 out of 14 permissions.
    Another oddity: Using TreeSize Free software, the owner of the "E:\Music" folder is listed as "Administrators", not "Brendon". Actually, as I type this, I went back to check the owner that is listed in the Windows 10 Security tab, and it too is listed as "Administrators" instead of "Brendon" even though 3-4 days ago I made it "Brendon".
    At one point, it was suggested to use the Tweaking Windows Repair tool to reset permissions. Unfortunately, it seems that software only works for C: drive windows folders (such as C:\Windows, C:\Users, and C:\Program Files, etc).
    What did I break? How can I fix it? How can I get the "E:\Music" folder shared with "Everyone" as read-only and with my Laptop with Full Control?
    Please help.
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       1 Week Ago #29

    Mervil, one thing that I surely agree with is, that this shouldn't be so complicated. Never had such problems.

    Couple of questions...

    Can you share other User folders (try with Documents and report, if that is working)

    What programs are you using for organizing and playing your music? Maybe there is a cause for this.

    If nothing else work, I would suggest in-place upgrade (mounting ISO of Windows and reinstall - almost always everything stays intact, only permissions, registry and similar thing are getting reverted to default)
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  10.    1 Week Ago #30

    I'd like to answer your questions. However, something new is happening.
    You had previously mentioned using Tweaking Windows Repair (free). I installed this, and did all the preparation checks. After running each of the preparation and optional checks (in safe mode), I then proceeded to repair permissions (while I was at it, I repaired all of the listed recycle bins too). This seemed to only address permissions on my C: drive, and only the folders that were associated with Windows installation, and registry.
    Still not able to get the Sharing to work, I just wanted to kind of "start from scratch".
    I then copied all of my E: drive contents to an external HDD, formatted my E: drive, and then copied all the data back over. Now all the privileges, permissions, sharing settings seem to be the same for each of my folders on the E: drive. The owner of each of my folders on the E: drive is me (Brendon), and not Administrators.

    However, sharing no longer works on ANY of my computers.
    When I try to access ANY shared folder on the network, I get an error that says:

    Network Error:
    Windows cannot access \\MERVIL-PC\Brendon's Music
    You do not have permission to access \\MERVIL-PC\Brendons' Music. Contact your network administrator to request access.
    For more information about permissions, see Windows Help and Support
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    This is a new issue, and is not what I was experiencing before. I get a similar message when trying to access a folder that is shared on any of my computers, changing only of course based off of the name of the computer and the folder.

    To clarify again in case it matters: the Music folder I am trying to share is NOT a User folder.
    The music program I use is MediaMonkey.
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