need bulletproof networking procedure (please!)

  1. SMichelsen's Avatar
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       #1

    need bulletproof networking procedure (please!)


    Occasionally I need to set up small LANs of between 3 and 6 PCs. They are all Win 10 machines. Some are Win 10 "home" and some are "pro". They have all been updated to the latest build.

    The network consists of a router to provide IP addresses, and these PCs. The router may have an internet connection, but sometimes not. The network may be wired, or wireless.

    All these machines have to be able to access the public folder of all the others.

    I often find that although I --THINK-- that they are all configured identically, sometimes there's one or more machines that can't see the others, or the others cannot see them.

    What I would like to ask for here is a "bulletproof as possible" roadmap as to how to configure all these PCs so that they all can see each other's public folder. I am not shy about tweaking settings beyond the usual sharing settings.

    THANK YOU very much for your input here.
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  2. Clintlgm's Avatar
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    Well, your standard been around forever Workgroup is still the best way to go about it. you control what is shared with each unit. What's new is that you also have to set up Security each of your shares SMB 1.0 needs to be turned off. And in services.msc Function Discovery Provider Host and
    Function Discovery User Service needs to be running and set to start automatically
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  3. SMichelsen's Avatar
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    Clintlgm said:
    ...What's new is that you also have to set up Security each of your shares SMB 1.0 needs to be turned off. And in services.msc Function Discovery Provider Host and
    Function Discovery User Service needs to be running and set to start automatically
    Thanks! The "SMB 1.0" was a new one for me. Not clear why it needs to be OFF, but I went for it. I found info on it here...
    How to Enable SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support on Windows 10 | WD Support

    and turned it off. It took a solid 3 minutes and then a reboot for WIndows to make it happen!

    Will report when I get more than one PC in front of me.

    Steve
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  4. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (20H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    SMichelsen said:
    The "SMB 1.0" was a new one for me. Not clear why it needs to be OFF...
    Because...
    ... The original SMB1 protocol is nearly 30 years old, and like much of the software made in the 80ís, it was designed for a world that no longer exists. A world without malicious actors, without vast sets of important data, without near-universal computer usage.
    Stop using SMB1 | Storage at Microsoft

    The only reason Windows 10 still includes SMB1 as an option is to provide support for legacy servers that can only use SMB1. I have two such devices on my home network so I need to have the SMB1 CIFS Client enabled. One legacy device is my SmartTV, the other is my router with a usb external HDD being shared by plugging it into the router's usb port. I have read that some older NAS devices are also only SMB1-capable.
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  5. Try3's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 20H2 Build 19042.868
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    Steve,

    Thanks for posting that extremely useful link.

    Denis
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  6. x509's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro
       #6

    SMichelsen said:
    Occasionally I need to set up small LANs of between 3 and 6 PCs. They are all Win 10 machines. Some are Win 10 "home" and some are "pro". They have all been updated to the latest build.

    The network consists of a router to provide IP addresses, and these PCs. The router may have an internet connection, but sometimes not. The network may be wired, or wireless.

    All these machines have to be able to access the public folder of all the others.

    I often find that although I --THINK-- that they are all configured identically, sometimes there's one or more machines that can't see the others, or the others cannot see them.

    What I would like to ask for here is a "bulletproof as possible" roadmap as to how to configure all these PCs so that they all can see each other's public folder. I am not shy about tweaking settings beyond the usual sharing settings.

    THANK YOU very much for your input here.
    I'm not the OP, but I often have the same thought. Has anyone published a set of registry entries that all together set up a LAN of private systems, allow printer and file sharing, etc. and set up shares for all drives on each system? Or else a PowerShell script? (I keep meaning to learn PowerShell. i'm stuck in back in the days of DOS bat files. )
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