NAS and Laptops

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  1. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    NAS and Laptops


    I've researched this on the internet, and just left myself confused! Sorry in advance for the long post, but I wanted to make clear where I am, and where I want to be.

    I work from home, as does my wife, and we have 3 Win 10 PCs on a wired network (We each have a work PC, and I have a leisure/hobby PC). I also have a laptop which I use in the field (I'm an industrial controls engineer).

    I seemed to spend a ridiculous amount of time copying files from one device to another, and often forgot to update all PCs with my laptop when going on a site visit, so end up not having all the files I need.

    I purchased a Buffalo Terastation NAS to try to relieve the situation, but it has just made it worse!

    I have set this up so that data files are stored on the NAS in two drives; S: for shared files (music, family photos, finances, family history (our hobby), and personal data on Y: (two separate partitions on the NAS, one for myself, one for my wife, but mapped to Y: on each of our PCs).

    That bit was easy!

    Now for the laptop, which is proving to be a data management nightmare!

    If the laptop is connected to the network, all is fine and dandy; I have the S: drive and Y: drive mapped and it works just like on my PC. However when I go out, I don't have the network so I lose access to all my data.

    To get round this I have created two partitions on the laptop to hold the S: and Y: drives, but had to assign two different letters (J: and K:). I then use FreeFileSync to sync these two partiotins to the NAS; not ideal, but workable. However I use several programs that store data on absolute paths (this cannot be changed), so when I try to run them on the laptop away from home, they are looking for the S: and Y: drives, which aren't there.

    At the moment I have two options; keep changing the path in the apps, or re-map the partitions.

    Is there an easier way to do this? I don't want to go down the route of using Windows Server (which I think would solve my problems, but it's too expensive), I want to just keep on a simple home network.

    If you are still with me, thanks for reading!
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  2. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #2

    Hi there.

    We have three computers in the house (all PCs) which are regularly backed up to a NAS twice weekly.

    I use a WD My CloudMIrror 6Tb box and use the Uranium-Backup software to do the automation.

    It shouldn't matter whether the computer to be backed up is a traditional desktop or a laptop, it should work the same way.
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  3. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks for the reply, but that's not quite what I am looking for. Files are already backed up to the cloud using iDrive. I am after using the NAS like a traditional file server, where files are stored and accessed from the NAS rather than the local drive, unless it is the laptop when away from the network.
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  4. Posts : 14,022
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #4

    The WDC MyCloud may be the type of solution desired, supposed to be able to access from anywhere that has Internet service. May be other similar brands.
    My Cloud - Personal Cloud Storage | Western Digital (WD)
    Most programs offer a fixed location for storage of data created by the program, usually changeable in Options/Preferences/Settings, etc.
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  5. Posts : 152
    Windows 10 Pro/Education x64
       #5

    Maybe try the work folders feature after mapping a folder on the NAS drive to your laptop so the files are available offline until you reconnect? See control panel > work folders for more info.
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  6. Posts : 31,682
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #6

    PeteW1959 said:
    At the moment I have two options; keep changing the path in the apps, or re-map the partitions.

    Is there an easier way to do this?
    Yes @PeteW1959, there's a much easier way providing you have Windows 10 Pro on the laptop. If you don't have Pro, then it would be cost-effective to pay for an upgrade, the time you save would pay for the upgrade by making you more productive while out on site.

    You can continue to have access to your network S: an Y: drives as if you were still connected while you are away from your network. It's called Offline Files and is simply a matter of right-clicking on the folder(s) or the drive you need to access and select 'Always available offline'. You could make the entire drive available if you wish, but bear in mind a copy of all the files will be kept on your laptop. It's may be better to just sync the key folders you need.

    These Windows 7 tutorials are equally applicable to Windows 10

    Offline Files - Enable or Disable the Use Of - Windows 7 Help Forums

    Offline Files - Make Files or Folders Available Offline - Windows 7 Help Forums

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    Last edited by Bree; 25 Jul 2018 at 20:43.
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  7. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Thanks @Bree, that's exactly what I am looking for. I dont have Pro on the laptop, only one of the desktops, but I will upgrade and give it a go.
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  8. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #8

    Hi there
    @PeteW1959

    There should be nothing complicated about this at all -- no need to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro etc

    All you need to do is

    1) ensure Files on NAS are shareable, and accessible (read / read/write or whatever privileges you want to assign per user etc).

    2) enable network discovery is enabled on (the Windows PC's) if switched off

    3) browse network for the NAS server -- if you don't see it then enter its IP address

    4) Map Network drive -= windows will usually start at Z then Y eyc.

    Now simply use those folders like any other bog standard Windows folder -- "Seemples !!!!!".

    Any other PC connected to your LAN can connect the same way.

    Personally for NAS I'd rather use a cheap PC with my own drives in it and install any decent Linux distro -- enable software RAID and configure SAMBA for your shares and then use as above -- that's a bit more complex initially and beyond the scope of this post but having a non proprietary system on which you can install your own software / hardware is IMO the best solution rather than buy more expensive dedicated NAS drives -- of course YMMV however.

    I wouldn't use the "Offline" facility - just copies extra data, fills up HDD and is difficult to delete -- IMO simply copy files you want to use offline to external USB drive / stick / cloud server.

    Once you get a bit more technical you could set your NAS system up as a LAMP / WAMP server and access it from anywhere over the public internet. Again beyond the scope of this post but should start you in the right direction. I use LAMP as I'm running Linux NAS servers -- for Windows equivalent is WAMP.

    Here's a brief link on how to do it on UBUNTU (a popular Linux distro).

    How To Install Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP (LAMP) stack on Ubuntu 18.04 | DigitalOcean



    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #9

    jimbo45 said:
    Now simply use those folders like any other bog standard Windows folder -- "Seemples !!!!!".
    jimbo
    That's what I am already doing, but the problem comes when I take the laptop away from the network; the mapped drives disappear!
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  10. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #10

    Hi there
    @PeteW1959

    That's why you need some sort of Internet access to have access to your network from outside it e.g over the public internet.

    I really prefer LAMP over "offline facility" .

    For transferring files is easy via any FTP type program e.g sftp -- but loads of GUI´s available so works just like Windows explorer.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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