Few months ago I changed my router/modem to sagemcom thereby losing my home network since the router IP address is now different.
I'm in windows 10 pro.
The internet and wireless printer work.
How can I find the IP addresses of my TV, receiver & streamer?
I think an equivalent question is how to (re)create a home network?
Thank you
Unless you have gone into the settings on each device and reconfigured them to use the new router they won't have an IP address. They will still be set up to look for DHCP from the old router.
Once they are set up to use the new router they should appear on your network automatically. On point to bear in mind, my TV requires SMB1 to be enabled on the PC before it can see it.
Thanks for your answers.
@Bree: This what I did, say, on the streamer (dune). went for the setup, network. Let him search for wi-fi. It immediately found the new router, but couldn't find an IP address (needed when apply was clicked). Maybe I should have restarted it or the PC.
Finding the new router is not a problem since I gave it the same name and password as the previous router.
I wish I new what SMB1 means.
@bro67: this is what I'm looking for. I couldn't find it on the devices or the PC. I tried to configure manually and it requires IP address, mask etc. My previous router had this info. The current one hides it somewhere and I only know it is 192.168.1.x
Last edited by Barman58; 25 Jul 2018 at 04:09.
Server Message Block SMB is protocol used mostly by windows to share files on network. SMB1 means is version 1.
Version 1 is quite old and not very secure and is disabled by default on latest windows 10.
You can enable SMB1 (at your own risk) in Control panel > programs >Turn widows features on or off> Check SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing support > OK.
Now to recreating your home network.
Most of devices use DHCP by default so they will get configuration (IP address, DNS, etc.) from your DHCP server in consumer networks that is usually your router.
If you can connect to your DHCP server(probably router) UI loook for DHCP leases (or similar menu) it should list what hostname has got what IP address assigned by dhcp.
Also there should be way to look up IP on most devices.
(windows open command prompt and type ipconfig and press enter should display basic network settings)
If you have IPs configured manually for some reason then you may need to redo it if its configured with IP from different network.
most consumer routers use 192.168.0.x (subnet mask 255.255.255.0) that means last number (x) after dot can be from 1 to 254 but some of those will by taken for example router usually takes 1 or 254.
Your seem to be 192.168.1.x same principle your IPs x fo devices will be in range from 1 to 254 most likely router will already be using 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.254 (first or last one)
your mask is most likely 255.255.255.0 also can be written as /24
SMB is actually a protocol designed by Microsoft to communicate with the NIX group of operating systems Unix, Linux, Etc. It is not required to communicate between Windows systems, SMBv1 is also no longer required to communicate with the majority of the modern "NIX" OSs, as these can use SMBv2 or SMBv3.
The main current issue is the high number of media devices that we find in our home networks, TV's NAS Drives ETC, a lot of these still rely on SMBv1 as it is the standard for Older Embedded Linux OSs that are used in these type of devices.
Windows Networking uses other protocols which are totally independent of Small Block Messaging protocols There is a good explanation of the way that windows remembers which Devices are which Address Here, (not essential but helpful if your network is misbehaving)
The best way to set up a home router is to set the DHCP so that IP addresses are automatically assigned (usually default in the router), In the network settings in each computer make sure that the IPv4 protocol is set to get IP addresses and DNS automatically, (again this should be the default setting)
Although these days much of the settings changes in windows do not require a reboot, I have found with Network changes they sometimes do, so it is worthwhile assuming that they do every time. I believe this is more to do with the way that the Network device list is populated than anything else.
In windows 10 I would, ( and have), no issue with re-enabling SMBv1 on a fully patched Windows 10 Install with a modern Anti Malware Suite with ransomware protection. But only if you have devices that require it's use.
Windows 10 was almost completely immune to the Wannacry incident in 2017, (The cause of the many changes to windows networking recently), and has been fully patched since the incident
Recently I also had to recreate my home network after changing router. Of course, as already been said, all ip info can be found in the router. In most cases, you can define static ip addresses to your devices in the router.
But what to do if you want access to devices, which donot show up in the network environment in Windows? In my case a sat. receiver and connected to that an USB HDD. I used: Advanced IP Scanner Portable. It gives you all your devices in your home network, with IP number, and also accessible info to such devices, for instance a connected HDD. Creating a shortcut is then easy. The shortcut on my desktop brings me immediately to the HDD, connected to the sat. receiver.
it appears that all I had to do is enable WPS in router configuration
problem solved
than you all
I haven't found any IP tables in my router configuration (sagemcom f@st 3184) and there are very few screens.
I worked for years with WPS enabled on my previous router and nothing happened to my pc or phones.
I could not find a user guide for my router but found a user guide for the f@st 3284 which is very similar and did not see
any IP tables there. Anyway my TV & streamer or wireless were not seen on ipconfig before setting the WPS.
if anyone knows how to get to those IP tables on Sagemcom F@st 3184 or if anyone has a user guide for this modem/router I'll be glad to receive and will be obliged.
The way I see it the problem is solved now.
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