Windows 10: Having trouble taking ownership of USB network drive

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  1. Posts : 21
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 16299 Multiprocessor Free
       02 Jul 2018 #1

    Having trouble taking ownership of USB network drive


    I have a 2TB USB drive connected to my router and I am currently copying my media files to it so I can access them from other devices. All seems to be working but at times have trouble with not having permission to change/delete files.
    When I try to to change the owner to give permission to read/write to these folders I get error messages. The Drive seems to be owned by S-1-22-1-0 and S-1-22-2-0 and i'm not included at all.

    Sorry, this is an area where I am totally out of my depth and would appreciate some help. My objective is to have the media files located on my Desktop, replicated on the networked USB drive and to use sync centre to keep them in sync.
    I hope this makes sense. look forward to any help on this
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  2.    02 Jul 2018 #2

    The numbers are the SID of the person who created the folders so every time you create a folder it's set you as the owner even if you login from another PC with the same name the SID won't be the same. If you create folders then set everyone with full rights then copy files it may solve it
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       02 Jul 2018 #3

    RobN17 said: View Post
    I have a 2TB USB drive connected to my router...
    Samuria said: View Post
    The numbers are the SID of the person who created the folders...
    The catch here is that the SIDs are not those of the PC connecting to the network share, but those of the router's own operating system, most likely unix-based.

    I see the same permissions for my 2TB drive connected to my router and shared by the router as usb1. In my case the SIDs can be resolved to the account names on my BTHUB4 router, they are the Admin and the root accounts on the router itself. The router's own Everyone group has 'special permissions' as it does on the OP's router. From any PC I have full access to the share, and the files and folders it contains, without the need to change permissions. Indeed, as for @RobN17, I can't change permissions, only the Admin account on the router's OS can do that. But I don't need to, I have full access already.

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    The inability to resolve the SIDs (and possibly the problems accessing some of the files) may well be down to the router and the PC trying to access it being in different Workgroups. My router and PC are both in the same workgroup. The clue that this may be the problem is the message about the inability to determine Domain membership. Try changing the router's Workgroup to be the same as the PC. The computer named "MEDIA-GATEWAY" will be the router.

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       03 Jul 2018 #4

    Hi Bree,
    thanks for the help. As I said I have little experience in this area and I'm not sure how to change the workgroup. I also noted that other than everyone, you have administrator and root.. whereas I have S-1-22-1-0 and S-1-22-2-0. Is this the problem??
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  5. Bree's Avatar
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       03 Jul 2018 #5

    RobN17 said: View Post
    I'm not sure how to change the workgroup....
    My router is the one supplied by my ISP and the available configuration options are limited. It is set to use the HOME workgroup and this cannot be changed. See your router's documentation for the workgroup it uses and if you can change it. I've had to change the PCs on the network to use the HOME workgroup to match my router.

    Change Workgroup in Windows 10

    I also noted that other than everyone, you have administrator and root.. whereas I have S-1-22-1-0 and S-1-22-2-0. Is this the problem??
    As I said, these are the SIDs for accounts on the router. All your permissions look normal for a share on a router. I'm not sure why you just see the SID, perhaps your router doesn't allow you to see its account names. What is the make and model of the router?
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  6. Posts : 21
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       03 Jul 2018 #6

    My Router is also provided by my ISP (Telstra) and is a Technicolor TG799vnV2.

    I will now attempt to follow the instructions about changing Workgroup and will let you know how I go.
    thanks
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  7. Bree's Avatar
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       03 Jul 2018 #7

    RobN17 said: View Post
    My Router is also provided by my ISP (Telstra) and is a Technicolor TG799vnV2.

    I will now attempt to follow the instructions about changing Workgroup and will let you know how I go.
    thanks
    I have found a manual for your router. You can change the Workgroup on your router to match that of your PCs. See section 8.1.
    http://setuprouter.com/router/techni...anual-1059.pdf
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  8. Posts : 21
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       04 Jul 2018 #8

    Thanks Bree for Manual.

    I've checked both my PC and the Router and both oh WORKGROUP as the workgroup name. See attached images. Should I try renaming the workgroup on the PC and then do same on the Router? Or does it have something to do with my server name?
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       04 Jul 2018 #9

    RobN17 said: View Post
    Should I try renaming the workgroup on the PC and then do same on the Router? Or does it have something to do with my server name?
    No, they are already using the same workgroup and the server name looks good (no non-standard characters used, for example). As said earlier, the permissions look the same as mine so that shouldn't be a problem either. You shouldn't need to change permissions on the shared drive (even if you could).

    Everything looks correctly set up, so we need to look for other possible causes for your....
    ...at times have trouble with not having permission to change/delete files.
    Screenshots of the error(s) you encounter when changing/deleting files may help shed some light on the problem.

    One possibility springs to mind, the files may be in use by your router when you tried to change them. Your router has an impressive list of features, one of them is a DLNA Media Server (enabled by default). See section 8.2 in the manual.
    Media Database
    When you plug in your USB storage device, the MediaAccess Gateway will automatically start building the media database. This database contains all meta data of the media files stored on your USB storage device.
    It seems too much of a coincidence that these are media files you are having problems with.
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  10. Posts : 21
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 16299 Multiprocessor Free
    Thread Starter
       05 Jul 2018 #10

    Bree,
    I just realised one piece of information I neglected to mention. I'm trying to use Windows Sync Centre to keep my networked media files in sync with my folders on my PC. Is this a complication?
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