Computers can't see each other after upgrade to 1803

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  1. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #51

    Access Denied said:
    Yes I agree. I did not do that for my network. It was suggested by another user and he tried it. I have another suggestion he try. That is to open Computer Management, expand the Shares on the left. Then right click the share that is failing, click stop sharing. After that, right click in the space there and click on New Share. Follow through the wizard sharing the folder he wants and pay attention when it asks about permissions. Click on customize permissions and then make sure all permissions and security are set correctly from within the wizard. Once done click Finish. See if it works then.
    Hi there

    one thing we can all agree on though is Windows networking is still a hideous mess -- nearly everybody these days wants to share files / stream audio / video from servers / NAS boxes, use phones / tablets / smart TV's etc on a LAN and it appears that the same solutions often don't work twice.

    I'd suggest that Ms gets some top level Network gurus and locks them into a room with a typical home type of Lan (not a clean corporate one) and doesn't let them out until the whole thing is working 100%. Devices must include W10 / W7 / XP /Apple MacBook / Android phone / iPhone / Smart TV / Amazon fire TV box / Linux NAS box and a QNAP NAS box.

    System must work consistently at least 6 times after booting the odd computer / device -- only then would I send the product out of the door for general release.

    Not surprised why about 85% of cloud / other commercial servers use some type of Linux (Red Hat, Suse, and Centos being the most popular with some ubuntu servers too).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 46
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #52

    I've been a bit pissed about some of the things MS has done as they try to bully their way around their operating system. I feel I've got less control.
    Just an example: I have one PC set up as a HTPC and it's set to auto log on and almost every update that comes out, the auto log on is switched back to default. Not a big deal at all but just proof to me that they want all the control.
    Not really related to this topic but look what they've done to networking. Sure,it's likely for a good cause to help prevent problems such as hacking or whatever but, it's my box, why can't I do what I want with it?
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  3. Posts : 10,929
    Win10 x64
       #53

    Beerlord said:
    I've been a bit pissed about some of the things MS has done as they try to bully their way around their operating system. I feel I've got less control.
    Just an example: I have one PC set up as a HTPC and it's set to auto log on and almost every update that comes out, the auto log on is switched back to default. Not a big deal at all but just proof to me that they want all the control.
    Not really related to this topic but look what they've done to networking. Sure,it's likely for a good cause to help prevent problems such as hacking or whatever but, it's my box, why can't I do what I want with it?
    Have you tried the Computer Management sharing option? Mine works and has worked since I started the services so I can't test it. I would like to know if it helps.

    That is to open Computer Management, expand the Shared Folders on the left. Click on Shares. Then right click the share that is failing, click Stop Sharing. After that, right click in the space there and click on New Share. Follow through the wizard sharing the folder you want and pay attention when it asks about permissions. Click on customize permissions and then make sure all permissions and security are set correctly from within the wizard. Once done click Finish. See if it works then.
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  4. Posts : 46
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #54

    Honestly, I don't see any difference once I use Computer Management to share.I can see the other shares each folder still gives me the Access Denied message. There are folders that do work, just not all of them. For instance. If I have 4 drives in a system and share them all. They all get shown but only one drive can be access. I access that drive but not all the folders in it will allow access. Some do, some don't. It makes no sense.
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  5. Posts : 10,929
    Win10 x64
       #55

    That to me sounds like permissions did not go down through the folders and is only for the top folder. When I edit a folder security to allow everyone, it will pop up a small box where I can see it applying Everyone to all the files and folders.
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  6. Posts : 46
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #56

    I think I'm going to take a break on this for a bit as it really isn't all that important to me. Just my nerdy OCD that says, "this should work, why doesn't it". I think this afternoon I'll have some homebrew and let me brain rest as I enjoy some adult hoppage and revisit this later. I'll check in to see what's happening and report if anything changes.

    Again to all, I very much thank you for your help!
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  7. Posts : 10,929
    Win10 x64
       #57

    Very welcome! I know how annoying it can be for sure.
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  8. Posts : 46
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #58

    Computers can't see each other after upgrade to 1803-2.pngComputers can't see each other after upgrade to 1803-1.pngComputers can't see each other after upgrade to 1803-3.png

    Just a few examples. Before trying the suggestions here, I couldn't even see the computer and now I can see all the shared drives. But, as you can see, I'm locked out.
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  9. Posts : 10,929
    Win10 x64
       #59

    If you are sharing an entire drive, Windows does not like that at all. I know it might have worked prior but 1803 is being really stupid with networking. Are you ok with giving security permission to Everyone for the drive? It will take a while for the permission to be applied to all files and folder on the drive.

    It is either give Everyone access to read/view OR if you want to be able to edit them, Everyone needs full permissions.

    Either that or turn on password sharing and use the user name for that pc and password to access them. If you have a Microsoft account, go to C:\Users to see the user folder name to get the name for logging in. Windows will save the login credentials so you only have to do it once.
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  10. Posts : 46
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #60

    Thanks again. I did have it set just for folders and it makes no difference. I'll try the second option and see how it goes.
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