Windows 10: FileZilla Frustration

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  1.    2 Weeks Ago #1

    FileZilla Frustration


    I am in the last grit of setting up FileZilla, I am using all the defaults and going through the wizards to set the account details.

    Problem. Error Failed to create listen socket on port 0,
    This seems to root in Window 10 Defender. I have found how to open the port (...allows apps) I check the three boxes for ftp, but I am not sure that ftp port is the right one for my host. How can / do I need to cross check them?

    Question 1. FileZilla sets a range of ports? How do these match with Defender settings? Or is that taken care of by W10 / FileZilla?

    Question 2.
    Can I leave the ports open all the time?
    Is the FTP port / ports vulnerable to being attacked?
    If so how can protect it /them?

    Last. Any other pointers?

    Thanks
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  2.    2 Weeks Ago #2

    Hey mikeincousa,
    Which Filezilla are you trying to setup ... the FTP Client or Server ?
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  3.    2 Weeks Ago #3

    mikeincousa said: View Post
    Problem. Error Failed to create listen socket on port 0,
    This seems to root in Window 10 Defender. I have found how to open the port (...allows apps) I check the three boxes for ftp, but I am not sure that ftp port is the right one for my host. How can / do I need to cross check them?
    What 3 boxes are you referring to? For a FTP server the default incoming port is 21 but you can change it to another value if you want.

    mikeincousa said: View Post
    Question 1. FileZilla sets a range of ports? How do these match with Defender settings? Or is that taken care of by W10 / FileZilla?
    Did you follow the instructions at https://wiki.filezilla-project.org/N...ows_8_Firewall ? By default Windows allows all ports for a particular program.

    mikeincousa said: View Post
    Question 2.
    Can I leave the ports open all the time?
    Is the FTP port / ports vulnerable to being attacked?
    If so how can protect it /them?
    The point of an FTP server is that port 21 is open all the time. Any port that allows incoming connections can be vulnerable to attack - so if you are exposing this server to the Internet then you better make sure you have all your server settings configured properly and that you are fully up to date with security fixes.

    What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
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  4.    2 Weeks Ago #4

    Hi there
    @mikeincousa

    if you want a quick Free FTP (client) program for windows try this one WS_FTP (the free version was withdrawn some time ago but you can still get it (the Free one) from here)

    Download WS_FTP LE 6.0 - SnapFiles

    DOWNLOAD CAREFULLY as some of these sites often confuse so you can download the wrong file.

    Here's the interface -- simple quick and clean

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    Not sure what you want to do but this can send / get files across networks easily enough. For a HOME LAN simple networking should do. For access to your Domain (if you have one) or other remote sites this little program works perfectly -- I can see why it went "PRO" (i.e PAY)/ !!!!! but the free one still works on W10. !!!


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5.    2 Weeks Ago #5

    Goals and Another Open Port Issue Possiblly


    Thanks for your responses.

    I am setting up the client for starters.

    Ultimately I would like for someone to be able to ftp large files to my hosted domain at their schedule, then pick them up later with my Windows 10 machine.

    I am sensing that the account setup at my host needs significant restrictions too for security reasons?

    I have more or less the same open port security problem with a HAM radio program called EchoLInk. Long ago I had it working on an earlier Windows (XP?), Then a few years ago I downloaded a version and reestablished my credentials. But in the setup I stopped for needing to do something with the ports.

    With the ftp review I hope to resolve the risk with open ports in EchoLink.

    I hope the clarifies what I seek to accomplish.

    Thanks for any additional thoughts.
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  6.    2 Weeks Ago #6

    Host Overlay cPanel


    My host provides cPanel.
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  7.    2 Weeks Ago #7

    mikeincousa said: View Post
    My host provides cPanel.
    Hi there

    @mikeincousa

    if your host provides cPanel it should have FTP possibilities so user should simply be able to logon to your domain and access the relevant file (you can grant upload, download or both)

    I haven't set up full FTP etc stuff yet for external users as I'm busy on other things such as e-commerce with shopping carts but you should have a similar menu to this one. You'll probably see FTP section and files. You can also allow guest access (I wouldn't give guest any access other than READ) . The domain FTP program will take care of Windows ports etc.

    Set up your sub directories in the httpdocs folder.

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    cheers

    jimbo
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  8.    2 Weeks Ago #8

    Frankly, using FTP is really old hat, and rather insecure by modern standards. There are better and more secure ways to set up file servers these days eg using Cloud services, VPNs etc.
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  9.    2 Weeks Ago #9

    cereberus said: View Post
    Frankly, using FTP is really old hat, and rather insecure by modern standards. There are better and more secure ways to set up file servers these days eg using Cloud services, VPNs etc.
    Hi there
    @cereberus

    I think the OP just wanted to allow a user or whatever to access his domain server to get / send a file. I showed the built in facility nearly all domain hosting services have as standard thse days.

    Domain servers if the OP has something like cPanel (which he has) are quite secure in allowing read / write to a specific directory on his domain - rather like typical file download from any web site.

    Personally I also would do it via a proper web interface on the domain -- usually you can use built in application things like wordpress etc to build your web site but there's always a quick file up / download facility too -- you can password protect that stuff easily enough and by reading the log files on your domain server should easily tell you if anybody is trying to access the site who shouldn't be.

    Using a Hosting service is a lot more secure for small office and home users rather than trying to run a file server from your own Internet ISP -- also some ISP's also aren't very keen on you doing that type of activity on their networks.

    I agree old standard FTP isn't the best but until the OP's last post I didn't realize he simply wanted someone to be able to access his domain.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10.    1 Week Ago #10

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there
    @cereberus

    I think the OP just wanted to allow a user or whatever to access his domain server to get / send a file. I showed the built in facility nearly all domain hosting services have as standard thse days.

    Domain servers if the OP has something like cPanel (which he has) are quite secure in allowing read / write to a specific directory on his domain - rather like typical file download from any web site.

    Personally I also would do it via a proper web interface on the domain -- usually you can use built in application things like wordpress etc to build your web site but there's always a quick file up / download facility too -- you can password protect that stuff easily enough and by reading the log files on your domain server should easily tell you if anybody is trying to access the site who shouldn't be.

    Using a Hosting service is a lot more secure for small office and home users rather than trying to run a file server from your own Internet ISP -- also some ISP's also aren't very keen on you doing that type of activity on their networks.

    I agree old standard FTP isn't the best but until the OP's last post I didn't realize he simply wanted someone to be able to access his domain.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Yeah - I just really wanted to point out FTP is not the most secure service these days, and hackers monitor and often exploit port 21. For similar reasons, that is why I do not use RDP (port 3389) over internet for remote access (apart from PITA of having to deal with ISP dynamic addresses needing a DDNS service).

    Also, it is better to use SFTP if you are going to use FTP at all.

    As you say, this is probably not relevant to OP based on later information.
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