Windows 10: Explorer/Network shown everything except Computer

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  1. GARoss's Avatar
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    Windows 10 64-bit Home v1809 (OS Build 17744.1003)
       07 Jan 2018 #1

    Explorer/Network shown everything except Computer


    While trying to connect a new pc to our network I somehow no longer see "Computer" in "Network" on my computer's Explorer. Oddly, the new computer Network is showing everything but on my PC "Media Devices" "Multifunction Devices", etc all are there but no Computer" (see photo). If I type the other network computer names in Explorer to search they are found. I don't know what happened.

    Any ideas how to fix?

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  2.    07 Jan 2018 #2

    Might be the SMBv1 Uninstalled by Update 1709 issue?

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...r-version-1709


    It certainly isn't a "friendly" write up that is for sure .....written for IT Pros I think but I found I only needed the SMB1.0 Client re-enabled for things to be fine again after playing with different settings.

    T.D.L :
    FCU 1709 disables and removes SMBv1 after 15days if it hasn't been used, (eg turning on my old Synology NAS i found I couldn't connect to do a backup), But you can turn it back on in:

    THE FIX

    Goto Control Panel>Programs and Features>Turn Windows Features on and Off>SMB 1.0/CIFS

    and checking just the SMB1.0 Client box worked for me.

    Once you do this Win10 will no longer disable it automatically as it assumes you need it, if you it turned back on.

    AFAIK this issue with SMBv1 was mainly related to WinXP and is not an issue on Win10 , so personally I was not worried about turning it back on.

    Or if you need pics ? .....do the reverse of this article
    How to Disable SMBv1 and Protect Your Windows PC From Attack


    For Others to try 1st Per Microsoft ..........

    Explorer Network Browsing

    The Computer Browser service relies on the SMBv1 protocol to populate the Windows Explorer Network node (also known as "Network Neighborhood"). This legacy protocol is long deprecated, doesn't route, and has limited security. Because the service cannot function without SMBv1, it is removed at the same time.

    However, if you still have to use the Explorer Network in home and small business workgroup environments to locate Windows-based computers, you can follow these steps on your Windows-based computers that no longer use SMBv1:



    1. Start the "Function Discovery Provider Host" and "Function Discovery Resource Publication" services, and then set them to Automatic (Delayed Start).
    2. When you open Explorer Network, enable network discovery when you are prompted.


    All Windows devices within that subnet that have these settings will now appear in Network for browsing. This uses the WS-DISCOVERY protocol. Contact your other vendors and manufacturers if their devices still don't appear in this browse list after the Windows devices appear. It is possible they have this protocol disabled or that they support only SMBv1.

    Note We recommend that you map drives and printers instead of enabling this feature, which still requires searching and browsing for their devices. Mapped resources are easier to locate, require less training, and are safer to use. This is especially true if these resources are provided automatically through Group Policy. An administrator can configure printers for location by methods other than the legacy Computer Browser service by using IP addresses, Active Directory Domain Services (AD DS), Bonjour, mDNS, uPnP, and so on.
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  3. GARoss's Avatar
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    Windows 10 64-bit Home v1809 (OS Build 17744.1003)
    Thread Starter
       07 Jan 2018 #3

    No good. Thanks but this didn't fix the issue.
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  4.    07 Jan 2018 #4

    Hey GARoss,
    What didn't work, can you be more specific?

    Note: If you did Kbirds THE FIX and you don't have a NAS or Router USB File Sharing, you're probably going to have to install the SMBv1 Server.
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  5.    07 Jan 2018 #5

    Eagle51 said: View Post
    Hey GARoss,
    What didn't work, can you be more specific?

    Note: If you did Kbirds THE FIX and you don't have a NAS or Router USB File Sharing, you're probably going to have to install the SMBv1 Server.

    Eagle51 maybe correct GARoss I have both on my network , I tried it with the Server Option too and it worked as well, but I found I didn't need , when experimenting, so removed it.


    KB.
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  6. GARoss's Avatar
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    Windows 10 64-bit Home v1809 (OS Build 17744.1003)
    Thread Starter
       08 Jan 2018 #6

    Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check these.
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  7. GARoss's Avatar
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    Windows 10 64-bit Home v1809 (OS Build 17744.1003)
    Thread Starter
       08 Jan 2018 #7

    I have my wife's PC now setup & running now & we're on the same Network. It's really odd but the Computer icons in Explorer work occasionally & then don't. Very odd.
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  8.    08 Jan 2018 #8

    Hey GARoss,
    Are you both running the same Win10 Vers ?
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  9.    08 Jan 2018 #9

    it may help perhaps to make the computer that is usually on maintain a list of other on the network....

    I still do this and us the info in this text file :
    Explorer/Network shown everything except Computer Attached Files
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  10. GARoss's Avatar
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    Windows 10 64-bit Home v1809 (OS Build 17744.1003)
    Thread Starter
       09 Jan 2018 #10

    Eagle51 said: View Post
    Hey GARoss,
    Are you both running the same Win10 Vers ?
    Yes - 1709 (OS Build 16299.192)
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