Windows 10: Do I need a VPN service to connect two remote networks?

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  1.    19 Dec 2017 #1

    Do I need a VPN service to connect two remote networks?


    I am pretty much a newb. (Had not training in computers but spent a great deal of time on it though.)

    1. It seems like I keep connect two remote networks without using a paid VPN service. But there are some pros to this it appears. First, the router probably would be working overtime to encrypt and decrypt every data that goes back and forth from every device, right?

    Second, when I want to access a website, I need to connect using a VPN service to hide my IP address. So, it looks like it's better to just use a VPN service to connect the two networks? The encryption/decryption is executed by each device on the network?

    Well, how do I go about connecting the two networks that share the same VPN service?

    Thanks in advance.

    Totally irrelevant question but is programming really time consuming even for experts for even simple programs? I mean it takes hours to just do program simple things? And is that why an extensions have all these bugs that seems so simple to fix but it's a lot more complicated than it looks? I thought that the organization was disorganized but now I'm wondering if programming is really really time consuming....
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    Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.5
       20 Dec 2017 #2

    Umm yes. If you want them to behave like one network, yes a VPN service is how you would do it. The Synology NAS and others with two ports that allow them to behave like a server, offer onboard VPN like OpenVPN. The only issue is that you need something to let them see the IP if Dynamic, if Sticky Dynamic IP, as long as the equipment does not change for the modem, they will see each other forever without a Dynamic DNS service.
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  3.    23 Dec 2017 #3

    Bro67,

    So, how do I go about it exactly. I actually have a synology NAS. Is there an package I download? I asked my VPN service and they said that only certain VPN services can do what you say but my VPN service doesn't offer it. Is the tech wrong? (I uses openVPN through their VPN servers to access the internet. I don't know if that makes a difference.)

    I also use Dynu DNS to use a domain name to resolve the dynamic DNS.
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  4.    23 Dec 2017 #4

    To be clear are you trying to join two networks on the internet or locally?
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  5.    23 Dec 2017 #5

    I want to do both. I want to connect two remote networks locally but also have the ability for a few computers connect to the internet via a VPN server to be anonymous and secure.
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    Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.5
       25 Dec 2017 #6

    CerebralFreeze said: View Post
    I want to do both. I want to connect two remote networks locally but also have the ability for a few computers connect to the internet via a VPN server to be anonymous and secure.
    All of what you want done can be done. The use of using a VPN to connect two remote sites is not something knew and whether you pay a company to maintain and setup the VPN or you use OpenVPN on both ends and connect through a Dynamic DNS host, that is wholly up to you and the choke point will be the Upload speed on both ends, that can drop you down to almost dial-up speeds, depending on what you are sending back and forth. I have seen first hand what happens when you try to go cheap and do not have enough bandwidth for upload and download. You basically kill any chance of anything getting done.
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  7.    27 Dec 2017 #7

    Bro,

    What do you mean by cheap? You mean cheap router, cheap VPN service, or something else? To be honest, I'm barely able to understand what's going on.

    First, I heard you could combine two networks as if they were on one network, for the first time about 2 weeks ago. I thought that was so awesome and I thought you had to do it by using your routers. But, then I read that it makes your network very slow because the router has to encrypt and decrypt for ALL devices.

    And, that a VPN service on one's computer gets around that because your computer does the encrypt and decrypting for only your data. So that's why they exist - for that one device or so I thought. I found out that some VPN services allow you to combine two networks into one virtual network. It's a special feature.

    I'm wondering what are the pros and cons of that.
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  •    27 Dec 2017 #8

    It depends on what you are actually going to do you need nothing to connect to another network you can just map drives. VPN doesn't keep you anonymous that's an illusion depending what you doing
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    Mac OS High Sierra 10.13.5
       27 Dec 2017 #9

    Not talking anything about hardware. Read what I posted. It is towards the fact that I have worked in State Government and with the work that I did, we needed at least 100mbps per workstation for up and down. That was not when we imaged large PDF files and had to send the files to a remote server, then pull them back and cut the PDF apart as we put them into a Document database server and entered the info. Then we would have to wait for all of that information for the fourth time to get sent back to a remote server. All of that on a single T1 that choked.

    My point is that if you are doing a VPN, you are using a Internet package that is say 50mbps down, 5mbps up, your choke point will be your upload both way, if both ends have the same package.
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  •    28 Dec 2017 #10

    Wait. I can just map drives from another network onto my computer??! I didn't know you could do that. I wanted to just combine my home network to my parent's network so we are just one happy network. And, I can access their NAS as if it's on my own network; I could map drives and stuff like that.

    But I don't even need to create a virtual network? I could just map drives directly to my computer in a manner that's secure?

    I also wanted to sign up for a VPN service so I could go to certain websites anonymously for legal reasons (nothing illegal). I am doing research for a professor and since these research projects take years, he doesn't want other researchers in the same field to know what kind of data he's searching for as it's always a race to publish first.




    Samuria said: View Post
    It depends on what you are actually going to do you need nothing to connect to another network you can just map drives. VPN doesn't keep you anonymous that's an illusion depending what you doing
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