Office 2010 or Office 2013 ? Help Me Decide

pparks1 said:

Depends. Do you need Outlook on 2 computers? If so, that's at least Office 2013 Home and Office and that's ~$250 per copy, so $500 total. So, at $100 per year, it would take 5 years of paying for Office 365 to get to that cost of just that first purchase. With Office 365, you could decide 2 years into it that you don't need it anymore and hence save yourself $300 that you would have otherwise spent. And when new versions come out, you get it as part of 365, and you don't have to pay for an upgrade.

I wasn't comparing Office 365 with Office 2013, but with Office 2007/2010. In 2007/2010, a box copy of Home and Student is $150 and gets you a license for 3 computers.

pparks1 said:

And if you ONLY need 2 copies, then you can sell the other 3 copies to some friends. $20 per copy per year is what it costs if you split it 5 ways. So, $40 for your needs.

Is that even allowed by the EULA? I don't think so.

pparks1 said:

I use DropBox too, but i only have 6GB of free space with dropbox. It costs $99 per year to get Dropbox Pro which gives you 1TB of space. So, if you spent $99 for DropBox Pro, you might as well buy Office 365 and get 5 copies of Office as well and up to 5TB of free One Drive space (1TB per 5 users).

Well, to be honest, I've received all my storage space on Dropbox from promotions, like buying a Dell tablet or a Samsung Android phone. I've never paid for storage.

pparks1 said:

If you needed 2 copies of Home and Business it would be $440. That's over 4 years of 365. And you get the free OneDrive space, thus eliminating having to pay for DropBox. And with Office 365, you get things like Publisher, and Access, etc. So it's more than just outlook. You get Skype minutes, support, etc.

Again, I wasn't comparing Office 365 with "box" Office 2013.

pparks1 said:

It's better than the NOTHING you get with a traditional purchase. Even with business plans, support has often been "per incident".

So tell me... How many times have you actually called Microsoft for support for ANYTHING (excluding Xbox support) related to Windows/Office?

pparks1 said:

It's business. They are out to make money.

Sure they are, but they don't need to screw the customer who's used to paying for software like they used to.

Also, I'll have you know that I'm not the only one that feels this way. I suggest you go read some of the reviews for Office 2013 on Amazon: Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Microsoft Office Home and Student 2013 (1PC/1User) [Download]

pparks1 said:

I'm all for Office 365. We are in the process of switching to it at work. Even at $52,000 a year, it's cheaper than it ever was for us to license office for 300 computers, and pay for Microsoft Exchange and cloud storage, etc.

If it works for your business, then great.

bobjoe said:

I wasn't comparing Office 365 with Office 2013, but with Office 2007/2010. In 2007/2010, a box copy of Home and Student is $150 and gets you a license for 3 computers.

Yes, the old Home and Student did get you 3 installs. But it also didn't include Outlook, Publisher, Access, etc. If you have a need for these other software titles and you need it on more than 1 computer, Office 365 is really a compelling option.

bobjoe said:

that even allowed by the EULA? I don't think so.

It sure is. They even have a document explaining on exactly how to share it. It says right at the top that you can share it with friends or family.
Share your Office 365 Home subscription with up to four people in your household

bobjoe said:

, to be honest, I've received all my storage space on Dropbox from promotions, like buying a Dell tablet or a Samsung Android phone. I've never paid for storage.

Yeah, if you aren't having to pay anything for your storage, it's hard to beat. I still prefer DropBox, but my 6.8GB of free space is woefully small compared to the 1TB that I get with OneDrive for each of my 5 users.

bobjoe said:

tell me... How many times have you actually called Microsoft for support for ANYTHING (excluding Xbox support) related to Windows/Office?

I don't have to call much on Windows or Office, but I'm an IT guy for a living. Other average people might benefit from support more than me.

bobjoe said:

Sure they are, but they don't need to screw the customer who's used to paying for software like they used to.

Thing is, I don't think they are really screwing over people. So many people have multiple devices today. So many people use Cloud storage space. So many people want to keep up on the latest versions of the software. $100 a year is cheap, that's like 2 tanks of gas, or eating out 2x, it's about what I pay for my cable TV and internet EVERY 2 weeks.

bobjoe said:

, I'll have you know that I'm not the only one that feels this way. I suggest you go read some of the reviews for Office 2013 on Amazon: Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Microsoft Office Home and Student 2013 (1PC/1User) [Download]

I understand there are unhappy people. Some people simply won't even entertain the concept of a subscription model. Some people think that with Office 365 you cannot install the software on your computer, but have to use it via the Internet...clearly they don't know what they are talking about". Some people like to bitch because in the past they were able to more easily pirate the software, and with these new subscription models, it's not working out as well for them.

You can still buy local installs of Office. But if you need more than 1 copy...you better strongly consider Office 365 because that will keep you on the latest versions, give you more software titles, and a bunch of other things.

Well i bought Office 2010 because Office 2013 was only available for a try out.

But upgrade to Office 2013 was free at the time.

So no complains here.

Tried office 2016 and was not happy with that one.


Jeff

FYI, if you have a relative that is studying in US college or if you are working and your company has a business deal with Microsoft, you can get Office 365 with Office Professional Plus up to 5 devices without spending a penny.

pparks1 said:

Yes, the old Home and Student did get you 3 installs. But it also didn't include Outlook, Publisher, Access, etc. If you have a need for these other software titles and you need it on more than 1 computer, Office 365 is really a compelling option.



It sure is. They even have a document explaining on exactly how to share it. It says right at the top that you can share it with friends or family.
Share your Office 365 Home subscription with up to four people in your household


Yeah, if you aren't having to pay anything for your storage, it's hard to beat. I still prefer DropBox, but my 6.8GB of free space is woefully small compared to the 1TB that I get with OneDrive for each of my 5 users.



I don't have to call much on Windows or Office, but I'm an IT guy for a living. Other average people might benefit from support more than me.

Thing is, I don't think they are really screwing over people. So many people have multiple devices today. So many people use Cloud storage space. So many people want to keep up on the latest versions of the software. $100 a year is cheap, that's like 2 tanks of gas, or eating out 2x, it's about what I pay for my cable TV and internet EVERY 2 weeks.


I understand there are unhappy people. Some people simply won't even entertain the concept of a subscription model. Some people think that with Office 365 you cannot install the software on your computer, but have to use it via the Internet...clearly they don't know what they are talking about". Some people like to bitch because in the past they were able to more easily pirate the software, and with these new subscription models, it's not working out as well for them.

You can still buy local installs of Office. But if you need more than 1 copy...you better strongly consider Office 365 because that will keep you on the latest versions, give you more software titles, and a bunch of other things.

I cannot believe you're defending Micro$oft.

Sure, Office 365 works for you. Great.

But MS didn't have to mess with their already established, working formula of giving 3 licenses per DVD box.

bobjoe said:

I cannot believe you're defending Micro$oft.

Why not, Office 365 is a good deal for me. And I'm equal opportunity when it comes to computers. I'm a Linux systems admin at work, and I have a Macbook Pro at home which is what I used most of the time (I'm using it right now).

It's the first time in a very long time that I have found that Office has truly been affordable. I use Outlook, and I have multiple computers. I have a desktop, a Mac laptop, my wife has a computer, my kids have a computer. Office Professional Plus used to cost $400 PER COPY. Now I can have 5 copies of that, plus 5TB of OneDrive space for $99 a year. And when Office goes from Office 2013 to 2016, it doesn't cost me anything additional to upgrade.

bobjoe said:

MS didn't have to mess with their already established, working formula of giving 3 licenses per DVD box.

That never worked for my needs as it was only the Home and Student versions, which didn't include software that I needed. For my needs above, I needed 2 copies of Office Professional for my wife and me, and 1 copy of home and student for the kids computer. That was $950.

So, you can see why I am happy. I went from having a need for $950 software every 3-5 years to simply spending $99 a year and getting more for my money.

And today, with Office 365 subscription, I get the Office 2016 suite. Its now available for me to install on 5 devices. No extra cost, other than my subscription cost.

pparks1 said:

And today, with Office 365 subscription, I get the Office 2016 suite. Its now available for me to install on 5 devices. No extra cost, other than my subscription cost.

Nothing new in 2016... Same crap as 2013...

bobjoe said:

Nothing new in 2016... Same crap as 2013...

There are new things
Microsoft Office 2016 review | The Verge

Unsure what major features are missing that you might be clamoring for. A lot of the changes are under the hood sort of things, rather than in your face flashy things.