Scam or Real (Office 2021)

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  1. Posts : 372
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       #11

    MisterEd said:
    Two giveaways. Both "LTSC" ... A retail version would simply be Microsoft Office Professional 2021.
    Quick question... what does 'LTSC' stand for please?

    Christophe
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  2. Posts : 6,789
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       #12

    cereberus said:
    So if you use such a site, go in with your eyes open, and be prepared to lose your money - CAVEAT EMPTOR applies.
    Ditto on that. You take your chances,

    High Risks of Buying Cheap Windows and Office Software.html

    Then look at the contact number:

    +4402036933947

    That's UK area code 0203 which is not a London UK number. London UK codes are either 0207 or 0208

    0203 code phone number scammers: how to stay safe from this phone scam

    I note that you obtained Office Professional Plus 2021

    Scam or Real (Office 2021)-skjamynd-2022-01-26-123305.png


    So read through this:
    Office 2019 for $39.99 - deal or scam? - Office Watch


    Note   Note

    They are selling Microsoft Office 2019 Professional Plus which is a real product but NOT sold retail.

    ‘Professional Plus’ Office bundles are only sold to organizations as part of volume licence agreements. Stores do not sell volume licence products to individuals.
    That’s how we know there’s something wrong with this entire offer. It’s a common trick for unscrupulous sellers, they give buyers a volume licence product key from an organization that’s bought a large Office 2019 Professional Plus licence. The same product key works for many Office 2019 installs within the company.

    At some stage the organization or Microsoft realizes the product key has ‘leaked’.



    I guess that applies to the Microsoft Office LTSC Professional Plus 2021 product that they're selling.

    Their ip address doesn't match their location.

    IP Location Lookup - Instantly Locate an IP Location
    Last edited by Callender; 26 Jan 2022 at 16:58. Reason: typo
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  3. Posts : 5,048
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       #13

    CMArbres said:
    Quick question... what does 'LTSC' stand for please?
    Long-Term Servicing Channel.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/office-2021-and-office-ltsc-for-windows-and-mac-faq-d574cf0b-3ebc-42cf-9035-a3b837e0463c


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  4. Posts : 11,247
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       #14

    Hi folks

    @CMArbres
    It may well stop working -- However one can always "Suspend updates" or roll back. It's not a lot of money so what's wrong with trying. The activation was fine via std Microsoft activation -- no dubious "KMS" things for bypassing activation.

    @Callender

    0203 UK number prefix :

    What is an 0203 Number Anyway | eReceptionist

    BTW Not sure of law in UK now they've left the EU but EU/EEA consumer law protects consumers if you use a CREDIT (not a DEBIT) card and the goods don't work. The CREDIT CARD company has to refund the money if the retailer doesn't / wont refund you if goods don't work on receipt. Similar law I think is in USA/CAN/AUS/NZ and probably other places too.

    If it lasts for more than a year that's still cheaper than an office/365 subscription and I really don't like the idea of Subscription software -- OK OFFICE/365 might be allowed on more computers etc but I'm the only one using this so that's not an issue either.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 2,177
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #15

    CMArbres said:
    Quick question... what does 'LTSC' stand for please?

    Christophe
    Office LTSC 2021 is available for enterprise admins to download and deploy to the users in their organization. The following volume licensed Office products are available for devices running Windows:
    • Office LTSC Professional Plus 2021
    • Office LTSC Standard 2021
    • Project Professional 2021
    • Project Standard 2021
    • Visio LTSC Professional 2021
    • Visio LTSC Standard 2021


    Overview of Office LTSC 2021
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dep...c2021/overview

    One-time purchases of Office 2021 for home and business use:

    • Office Home & Student 2021
    • Office Home & Business 2021
    • Office Professional 2021
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  6. Posts : 6,789
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       #16

    Well it seems likely that it will keep working but it's not legit.
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  7. Posts : 372
    Windows 10 Home: 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1586)
       #17

    MisterEd said:
    Office LTSC ... is ...
    Long-Term Servicing Channel (Google)

    That's what I wanted to know though cheers for all the other info.

    Christophe
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  8. Posts : 2,177
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       #18

    jimbo45 said:
    It may well stop working -- However one can always "Suspend updates" or roll back. It's not a lot of money so what's wrong with trying. The activation was fine via std Microsoft activation -- no dubious "KMS" things for bypassing activation.
    For retail software each purchase comes with a unique Product Key that is only good for one activation.

    Business purchasers buy volume license software. What they buy is activations of a particular product. Each purchase includes KMS or MAK key. This one key can activate as many activations are purchased. KMS keys are activated with the business's own activation server. MAK keys are activated using a Microsoft Volume License server.

    Unscrupulous sellers have found a way to sell software that bypasses official volume license activations.

    There is another business and professional software user that buys a Visual Studio subscription from an official Microsoft Volume License distributor. This subscription gives them the ability to evaluate a good part of the software Microsoft sells. Note this is for evaluation only not for regular use. The Product Keys can be used more than once but not an unlimited number of times. Unlike KMS or MAK keys they are classified as Retail keys. These keys are for the purchaser of the subscription only and are not to be sold.
    Visual Studio Standard subscriptions (formerly MSDN Subscriptions) allow development team members to install and use software to design, develop, test, evaluate, and demonstrate other software. Visual Studio software is not licensed for production environments.
    The keys being sold for Office Professional Plus are probably from a subscription like this. They are illegally being sold. What fools people is that they activated just like regular retail software. As long as these keys are not being sold too many times they will continue to activate. If a certain threshold is passed the Microsoft activation servers will catch on and potentially deactivate these keys.

    You can check to see what license type you by this:

    How to determine the license type of your Microsoft Office product
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/off...e?tabs=windows

    Here is an excerpt from what I got when I ran the script:

    LICENSE NAME: Office 19, Office19ProPlus2019MSDNR_Retail edition
    LICENSE DESCRIPTION: Office 19, RETAIL channel
    LICENSE STATUS: ---LICENSED---
    Note that Office Professional Plus 2019 is a MSDN Retail edition. That means the Product Key originally came from a Visual Studio Standard (MSDN) subscription.
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  9. Posts : 2,068
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       #19

    I think it's pretty obvious that when new software is available at a 90% discount, it's not really "legit". It may or may not activate and it may or may not stay activated. If you are willing to eat the cost of the software if something happens, that's probably all that matters.
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       #20

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi folks

    Is this a Scam or genuine --seems cheap enough at around 48 USD/EUR / 40 GBP

    Seems to have passable provenance.

    Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for Windows 10/11 (Instant Delivery) – SoftMall.co.uk

    Cheers
    jimbo



    Turns out it's... real.

    Ghacks Deals: Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2021 for Windows: Lifetime License for $49.99 - gHacks Tech News
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