disappearing scroll bar


  1. Posts : 48
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    disappearing scroll bar


    One of the new features of some applications like Word is a disappearing scroll bar (on the right).
    I'm wondering how to disable this, and just have a scrollbar that is always visible.
    It's not clear to me if this is a Windows feature, that is used by some MS programs, or that it is a feature of the application itself ..
    Of which Word is an example.
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  2. NMI
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    Windows 11 Pro, Version 22H2
       #2

    Settings, Ease of Access, Display, Automatically hide scroll bars in Windows, Off:

    How to Turn On or Off Automatically Hide Scroll Bars in Windows 10 UWP Apps
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  3. Posts : 48
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    NMI said:
    Settings, Ease of Access, Display, Automatically hide scroll bars in Windows, Off:

    How to Turn On or Off Automatically Hide Scroll Bars in Windows 10 UWP Apps
    I never heard about "UWP" Apps, but I can tell that : it doesn't work in Word & Outlook.
    In one of them, the scrollbar itself remains, but the scroll-block (the thing that moves on the scroll-bar) hides when you move your mouse away from it.

    In Windows Explorer it seems to work OK though
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  4. NMI
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    Windows 11 Pro, Version 22H2
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    For Word, you can use Draft Mode (at View, Draft) which has a permanent scroll bar.

    For Outlook, doesn't the scroll bar only disappear from the Folder Pane when the mouse pointer is elsewhere?
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  5. Posts : 48
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    NMI said:
    For Word, you can use Draft Mode (at View, Draft) which has a permanent scroll bar.

    For Outlook, doesn't the scroll bar only disappear from the Folder Pane when the mouse pointer is elsewhere?
    Yes, I think it is only the pointer from that pane indeed ...

    It seems like somebody thought it was a good idea to have all these disappearing scrollbars, and now you need a setting for each individual scrollbar, just to get it back ... Because they are reluctant to provide the option in an easy way.

    You see, the problem with the disappearing pointer is this: because you cant see where the pointer is, you first need to navigate to the scrollbar. But since you don't know where the pointer is, you must move to somewhere in the scrollbar, which often is the other end of where the pointer actually is. Then you need to move your mouse to the pointer, and then you need to move your pointer again (because using the pointer would be to move it).

    If the pointer is there all along, you just move your mouse to the pointer, no matter where you are on the screen, and move the pointer. That is obviously easier, there's no argument. I would agree with the fact that the pointer disappears when your Windows mouse arrow (pointer) is gone, because in that case you can't move anyway.
    But from the second the Windows mouse pointer is there, all scrollbars must have pointers, in my mind.
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    It probably is all in the scheme of a clean desktop, started by Microsoft some 20 or so years ago, most likely with Windows 95 if memory serves me correctly.
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  7. Posts : 48
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    Berton said:
    It probably is all in the scheme of a clean desktop, started by Microsoft some 20 or so years ago, most likely with Windows 95 if memory serves me correctly.
    Hmm no, I never bothered with Schemes and still it's only wrong in Windows 10.

    I actually have 2 Windows 7 running, and they still behave correct (in this context), and they have the default scheme.
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    MMMonzaSoxedo said:
    Hmm no, I never bothered with Schemes and still it's only wrong in Windows 10.
    I actually have 2 Windows 7 running, and they still behave correct (in this context), and they have the default scheme.
    It wasn't a program or enhancement like Themes for the desktop but a 'plan' to eliminate distractions.
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