WIN10 and Office 2003 Pro

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  1. Posts : 36
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       #11

    I don't know why I keep getting responses for Office 2010? I do not have Office 2010. I am using Office 2003 Pro.
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  2. Posts : 11,247
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       #12

    AccessShell said:
    I don't know why I keep getting responses for Office 2010? I do not have Office 2010. I am using Office 2003 Pro.
    Hi there
    @AccessShell

    My advice would be to use a Virtual Machine --then you can use Office 2003 exactly as you used to use it 100% without any problems at all until "the probable end of the life time of the universe".

    Rather than try and use old unsupported software on new releases of W10 there's nothing wrong in using Virtual Machines - and these days they can be almost as efficient as running the OS in Native mode -- they are excellent for keeping legacy hardware and software running indefinitely --no Dual booting needed either -- simply install a W7 or any OS that your 2003 office system worked on before and with Disk sharing etc -- absolutely no problems.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. Posts : 36
    WIN 10
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       #13

    The purpose of going to W10 is that W7 will no longer be supported after 1/?/2020. No more security updates will be forthcoming. I do not see that as a solution.
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  4. Posts : 31,660
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       #14

    AccessShell said:
    The purpose of going to W10 is that W7 will no longer be supported after 1/?/2020. No more security updates will be forthcoming.

    The same could be said for your Office 2003 for the past five years but you seem to be prepared to risk that. Support ended in 2014.


    Microsoft said:
    Office 2003 products no longer receive ... Security updates to help protect your PC from harmful viruses, spyware, and other malicious software, which can steal your personal information.
    Support has ended for Office 2003 - Microsoft Office
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  5. Posts : 11,247
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       #15

    AccessShell said:
    The purpose of going to W10 is that W7 will no longer be supported after 1/?/2020. No more security updates will be forthcoming. I do not see that as a solution.
    Hi there
    @AccessShell

    You'd only be using the system for running Office 2003 so security isn't actually an issue here on the OS itself -- especially if you don't do browsing or other internet stuff on the VM. The VM could be very small - you don't need to install anything else on it. You can ensure that only your HOST machine has access to any of the documents created by Office 2003 of course so no external influences can touch the files.

    If you are actually that concerned about security then perhaps you ought to consider that Office 2003 (including outlook) has more holes in it than about 20 KG of Swiss Gruyère cheese .

    There are decently available really cheap licenses of Office 2019 available via amazon etc for around 20 - 30 EUR -- I've bought 4 of these in the last 6 months -- not a single problem with activation / updates etc etc.

    Always intrigues me when people worry about the possible security issues on using a legacy OS as a VM but then want to install really old leaky un-maintained legacy software on their running "Day" Windows system -- inconsistency there I think

    VM's can be made very secure so I don't think running Office 2003 on a VM need cause you any security nightmares -- these can be much better protected now than the original Native OS.

    I'd still suggest that with the really heavily discounted versions of Office2019 available it would be worth your while to at least look at that option.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. Posts : 36
    WIN 10
    Thread Starter
       #16

    I have a W7 with a VMXP. MSFT lied to me when I got that machine. They said I could not run VB6 on W7. But, of course tou could. But I was not able to prevent the VMXP from connecting to the internet. Are you saying, for sure that a VM7 can be prevented from accessing the net. Also, I would imagine in that scenario I would not be able (from a security perspective) access files of the W10 from the VM7.

    I also have lots of VB6 programs interacting with Access 2003, Excel 2003. I have tried to write in VB.net but to no avail. It is not really VB. I believe I am stuck in a hard place.
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  7. Posts : 31,660
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       #17

    AccessShell said:
    Are you saying, for sure that a VM7 can be prevented from accessing the net.
    If you set up a VM without including a network adapter in the virtual hardware it will be totally cut off from the net.
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  8. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #18

    Bree said:
    If you set up a VM without including a network adapter in the virtual hardware it will be totally cut off from the net.
    Hi there

    @AccessShell

    with VM networking if you choose "local Host only" networking the only networking you'll get is between the VM and the host machine -- no probs whatsoever.

    You need to decide what you want to run on HOST and VM and what sort of networking (if any) you need to have between them.

    IMO get a cheap 2019 Office license and have done with it -- 20 -30 EUR isn't the most expensive bit of software I've ever paid for and you can put all your security qualms to rest.

    I think here you are a bit like --was it Roosevelt ? a US president around the time of WWII who said it's not fear but the fear of fear itself that causes problems.

    I'm sure some US historian will correct me on this but that's the essence I think of what he was getting at. !!

    I've used Outlook express (still IMO one of the nicest simplest email clients out there --discontinued though after XP) on a VM with 100% ZERO problems -- while I read all sorts of horror stories with people whose computers have every possible bit of A/V software on the planet for Virus prevention --including my pet hate of Malwarebytes pro (my pet hate A/V company !!) which does nothing that WD defender can't do on W10

    I've never in over 25 years of using Windows including using some dubious torrent sites like that one with a ship as image still flying "The Jolly Roger" flag even seen a smidgen of a Virus on any of my machines --even going back as far as this

    WIN10 and Office 2003 Pro-windows1.png

    Here's some XP VM's too
    WIN10 and Office 2003 Pro-xpvm.png

    WIN10 and Office 2003 Pro-xp2.jpg

    So don't get too paranoid and don't believe all the security scares those malwarebytes people say your computer need s more "security" !!!! laugh laugh !! (Again my nr 1 pet hate company but of course with all these things YMMV) sales people try and make you want you to believe --that's what they earn their money on of course. and even worse upselling is always rampant too.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Last edited by jimbo45; 02 Sep 2019 at 11:25. Reason: XP VM Images incorrectly attached - fixed
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  9. Posts : 31,660
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #19

    jimbo45 said:
    with VM networking if you choose "local Host only" networking the only networking you'll get is between the VM and the host machine -- no probs whatsoever.
    That would be for a VMWare VM. A Hyper-V VM is a bit different. The Default switch that restrict access to the host (and other VMs that use the Default switch) also connects to the internet. You'd need to set the network adapter to Not Connected in order to cut the VM off from the web.
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