Windows 10: ISO of Single Language

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  1.    18 Nov 2017 #11

    Bysen said: View Post
    If I do use MCT, I'll download the latest one. Does the Media Creation Tool download less data, less than the 4.4 GBs ISO that the MS site offers? If yes, then I might use it.
    The link that you have posted in your first post is the Media Creation Tool - the Download Tool Now button.
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  2. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 Home Single Language
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       18 Nov 2017 #12

    Yes, if the site is accessed from a Windows computer, it gives the option to download Windows 10 1709 using either the MCT or another tool called Update Assistant. If accessed from another OS like Linux, it gives links for the Win 10 1709 ISO. I did this using a user agent switcher.

    Regarding the Media Creation Tool, does it download less data?
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    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       18 Nov 2017 #13

    Bysen said: View Post
    Yes, if the site is accessed from a Windows computer, it gives the option to download Windows 10 1709 using either the MCT or another tool called Update Assistant. If accessed from another OS like Linux, it gives links for the Win 10 1709 ISO. I did this using a user agent switcher.

    Regarding the Media Creation Tool, does it download less data?
    I haven't tried downloading the 1709 ISO that way, but when I last used F12 in Edge to set 'user agent string' to Apple Safari (iPad) the ISO I got was one with an install.wim.

    The ISO or USB made by the Media Creation Tool has an install.esd so, yes - it should be a smaller data download. Not by a lot, though. The 1709 x64 USB it makes is 3.58GB.
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    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       18 Nov 2017 #14

    Bysen said: View Post
    I don't understand all these variants - S and N and all. I just need a Win 10 Home Single Language 64-bit setup for my computer. The size of the Win 10 Home Single Language you have mentioned is 15,569,063,438 bytes. I used an online converter, and it said the size was 15.56 GBs! Or is it 1.5 GBs?
    That's presumably 15.56GB when unpacked - don't forget that it's in an esd file. Also, most of the components are common to all versions, so the esd only includes one copy but different ways of putting them together to make all those variants -including the Single Language one you want.

    The S edition is a variant of Pro that only allows Store apps to be installed.
    Windows 10 S officially announced

    The N editions are to meet EU regulations that require bundled Media features to be excluded for certain European markets. These are available separately (to satisfy the EU's insistence on 'freedom of choice').

    The "N" editions of Windows 10 include the same functionality as other editions of Windows 10 except for media-related technologies. The N editions don't include Windows Media Player, Skype, or certain preinstalled media apps (Music, Video, Voice Recorder).
    Download and Install Media Feature Pack for N Editions of Windows 10
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  5.    18 Nov 2017 #15

    The iso created by mct is smaller than direct download of iso as it uses install.esd rather than install.wim.
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  6. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 Home Single Language
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       19 Nov 2017 #16

    Bree said: View Post
    The ISO or USB made by the Media Creation Tool has an install.esd so, yes - it should be a smaller data download. Not by a lot, though. The 1709 x64 USB it makes is 3.58GB.
    cereberus said: View Post
    The iso created by mct is smaller than direct download of iso as it uses install.esd rather than install.wim.
    Since it is a smaller download, I think I'll used the MCT to do the job. Thanks for the replies!
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  7. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 Home Single Language
    Thread Starter
       21 Nov 2017 #17

    Since the Media Creation Tool was possibly going to download less data, I used it to download and create an ISO. While selecting the settings, I had selected the option of using the settings for this computer, and the options it had automatically selected were Win 10, English US, x64.

    It kept downloading for a very long time, and downloaded 5.3 GBs, and by this time, the progress on the MCT had reached 38%. I finally disconnected from the net. I don't know how much more it would have downloaded if I had allowed it continue.

    If I had downloaded the ISO directly from the MS site, at least I would have known how much data was going to be downloaded. Can't they show in MCT in the beginning, how much data is going to be downloaded, and how much has been downloaded so far? Oh, and in the C:\ESD\Download folder there are four temp files each of which is 3.00 GBs (3,154,987 KB).

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    Once I closed MCT, all the files from that folder vanished.

    The "$WINDOWS.~BT" is 61.0 MB, while the "$Windows.~WS" is 670 KB. These were their approximate sizes even when MCT was downloading.

    Never going to use the MCT again.
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  •    21 Nov 2017 #18

    The Windows 10 x64 English MCT ISO is 3,720,192 KB. I downloaded it myself yesterday. I do believe the MCT downloads the files needed to create the ISO, not the actual ISO itself. Once it has all the files downloaded, it then creates the ISO from that.
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  •    21 Nov 2017 #19

    Hi there
    @alphanumeric

    The latest MCT can cause problems -- It installs by default HOME edition even if at download time you request the W10 PRO version.

    I was trying yesterday to clean install 5 laptops with W10 PRO (all had valid digital licences).

    It's a pain also to upgrade to correct edition --you have to go unto that wretched store thing (I hate those types of apps !!!) and request edition upgrade. You select W10 Pro but DO NOT enter any credit card number -- When requested for a key enter something like BOL***KS and then it works -- you don't need to pay anything.

    All 5 laptops then clean installed this way with digital licence OK.

    Whatever happened to the older system where at install time you got an option to choose which Windows version to install instead of now having to go through that wretched store -- and what happens if at install time you aren't on the Internet. !!!!!

    Latest upgrade method Ms -- FAIL -- it works but you have to be on the Internet to get your correct edition --otherwise you are lumbered with HOME.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  •    21 Nov 2017 #20

    @jimbo45, you seem to be the only one having that problem.
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