Windows 10: 2 x Windows 10, dual boot ?

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  1. Posts : 18
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       04 Nov 2017 #1

    2 x Windows 10, dual boot ?


    Hello everyone,
    Just want to ask if it's possible to have 2 x Windows 10, dual boot. Would that be possible, at all ?
    If yes, could i rename one of them, or both, the way i want ?
    For example, when i select the OS, it should appear something like

    " Windows 10 gaming "
    " Windows 10 testing only "

    Thank you in advance.
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  2. Posts : 3,376
    3-Win-7Prox64 2-Win10Prox64
       04 Nov 2017 #2

    Hi,
    I suppose so I use 2 different ssd's with fall creators on one and regular creators on the other
    I use one of these to make it so only one os at a time is live so no violation of terms of use is technically happening meaning one license/ one install.
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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  3.    04 Nov 2017 #3

    Sinx said: View Post
    Hello everyone,
    Just want to ask if it's possible to have 2 x Windows 10, dual boot. Would that be possible, at all ?
    If yes, could i rename one of them, or both, the way i want ?
    For example, when i select the OS, it should appear something like

    " Windows 10 gaming "
    " Windows 10 testing only "

    Thank you in advance.
    Changing the Friendly Name of a Boot Entry | Microsoft Docs

    ThrashZone said: View Post
    Hi,
    I suppose so I use 2 different ssd's with fall creators on one and regular creators on the other
    I use one of these to make it so only one os at a time is live so no violation of terms of use is technically happening meaning one license/ one install.
    Not quite... that's the same as a VM... it's still on the same machine.. but it's technicalities that's insignificant, IMHO.
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  4.    04 Nov 2017 #4

    Superfly said: View Post
    Not quite... that's the same as a VM... it's still on the same machine.. but it's technicalities that's insignificant, IMHO.
    We get this a lot.


    At what point are we as a reputable forum obligated to tell a user that using two installs with one licence is against EULA, and user needs a new licence?

    MS created the issue with intro of digital licences - how do you use a second licence anyway as 2nd install activates automatically?

    A user could enter a second key in change product key to comply with EULA, but this is absurd if it is activated automatically anyway.

    It is perfectly legal to uninstall one version, then reinstall other version to flop flop between them. All dual booting does is allow you to flip flop without ridiculous hassle of intalling/uninstalling.

    It is high time MS changed EULA to say "One licence means you can only have one instance of Windows active at any one time". So HOST+VM on one licence is not permissible, but dual boot is.

    I think as a forum we are being responsible by saying dual booting will work ok, but it is strictly against EULA, and leave it to user's moral conscience thereafter. It is not as if we are recommending piracy.

    We are not MS policemen, and are simply stating facts, and even responsibly warning user accordingly.
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  5.    04 Nov 2017 #5

    cereberus said: View Post
    We are not MS policemen, and are simply stating facts, and even responsibly warning user accordingly.
    Yep, been that way since when... if MS allows it technically, no need for us to stress.

    They should enforce validation their side of the EULA T&C's.
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  6. Posts : 20,475
    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 17083
       04 Nov 2017 #6

    Sinx said: View Post
    Hello everyone,
    Just want to ask if it's possible to have 2 x Windows 10, dual boot. Would that be possible, at all ?
    If yes, could i rename one of them, or both, the way i want ?
    For example, when i select the OS, it should appear something like

    " Windows 10 gaming "
    " Windows 10 testing only "

    Thank you in advance.
    I dual boot with this machine. When I joined the Insiders Program at the very beginning, there was no requirement that I use a Windows 7/8.x license. I just had to join the program. So, I was dual booting with Windows 7 and Windows 10 Insider Program.

    Fast forward to when the first RTM came out, I upgraded from Windows 7 Home OEM to Windows 10 RTM, then used my Windows 8.1 key to "keep myself honest" and to upgrade Windows 10 Home to Pro.

    So, now I have Windows 10 Pro Fall Creators Update and Windows 10 Insider (beta). I am quite sure I'm totally legal, since one is a beta and the other is the full blown commercial OS that I actually used two keys for (7 Home & 8.1 Pro), if you want to get downright technical about it. :)

    Just my two cents' worth. After all, I'm doing Microsoft a favor by participating in the beta. And I upgraded to RTM quite legally. So . . .
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  7. Posts : 20,475
    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 17083
       04 Nov 2017 #7

    cereberus said: View Post
    We get this a lot.


    At what point are we as a reputable forum obligated to tell a user that using two installs with one licence is against EULA, and user needs a new licence?

    MS created the issue with intro of digital licences - how do you use a second licence anyway as 2nd install activates automatically?

    A user could enter a second key in change product key to comply with EULA, but this is absurd if it is activated automatically anyway.

    It is perfectly legal to uninstall one version, then reinstall other version to flop flop between them. All dual booting does is allow you to flip flop without ridiculous hassle of intalling/uninstalling.

    It is high time MS changed EULA to say "One licence means you can only have one instance of Windows active at any one time". So HOST+VM on one licence is not permissible, but dual boot is.

    I think as a forum we are being responsible by saying dual booting will work ok, but it is strictly against EULA, and leave it to user's moral conscience thereafter. It is not as if we are recommending piracy.

    We are not MS policemen, and are simply stating facts, and even responsibly warning user accordingly.
    Maybe a case can be made that it's the same OS; however, for me, that doesn't even seem close.

    If I'm not mistaken, Microsoft has given me a "license" to Preview Windows 10 as an Insider. Secondly, I used my OEM key and upgraded from Home to Pro by using my Windows 8.1 key. So, it looks to me like I'm perfectly legal.
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  8.    04 Nov 2017 #8

    cereberus said: View Post
    We get this a lot.


    At what point are we as a reputable forum obligated to tell a user that using two installs with one licence is against EULA, and user needs a new licence?
    I would say that we have no obligation to provide that information until such time as the poster in question provides information in the post that they intend to violate the EULA. I see nothing in the OP of this thread to indicate the OP intends to violate the EULA. We don't know how many licenses for Windows 10 they have. All they asked was if they could dual boot two different installs of Windows 10. The answer to that is YES. You can set up dual booting on two different partitions on the same drive, you can set up dual booting on two separate physical drives. You can set up "dual booting" running one inside a VM hosted by the other.

    Now, if the OP asked, "I have Windows 7 and an upgrade to Windows 10 that came from the Windows 7 and I want to dual both of them now." That is indication the OP intends to violate the EULA and we have to tell them we aren't supposed to help them do that.
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  9.    05 Nov 2017 #9

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    I would say that we have no obligation to provide that information until such time as the poster in question provides information in the post that they intend to violate the EULA. I see nothing in the OP of this thread to indicate the OP intends to violate the EULA. We don't know how many licenses for Windows 10 they have. All they asked was if they could dual boot two different installs of Windows 10. The answer to that is YES. You can set up dual booting on two different partitions on the same drive, you can set up dual booting on two separate physical drives. You can set up "dual booting" running one inside a VM hosted by the other.

    Now, if the OP asked, "I have Windows 7 and an upgrade to Windows 10 that came from the Windows 7 and I want to dual both of them now." That is indication the OP intends to violate the EULA and we have to tell them we aren't supposed to help them do that.
    My point is that even if a user tries to do it legally, due to digital licence activation, the second install (if same edition) activates automatically i.e. MS have created the very non compliance situation.
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  10. Posts : 20
    Windows 7 Professional/Windows 10 Home
       05 Nov 2017 #10

    Here's a post I made regarding dual booting the same copy of Windows 10 back in April last year:

    Multiple windows 10 copies. Solved - Page 3 - Windows 10 Forums

    I don't know if anything has changed regarding licensing since I made that post but I suspect the results would probably still be the same today (I haven't tried it again since then).
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