Windows 10: Installing Windows 10 on HDD, then on SSD

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  1.    07 Nov 2017 #41

    Foebane72 said: View Post
    I am now on Win10 Pro on an SSD, and the difference is certainly faster!

    What happens with things like Drive Defragmenter? Will it run or not?
    It will only trim SSD.
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  2. ThrashZone's Avatar
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       07 Nov 2017 #42

    10 uses trim they just didn't bother to reword the operation.
    Don't worry about it.
    Use the ssd's utility if a samsung use samsung magician to update the ssd's firmware....
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  3.    07 Nov 2017 #43

    There was a couple of things during the install:

    1. The 3.5" adapter didn't quite reach the sides of the bay, and the screws provided were too small, so I used the screws I already had (larger thread) to screw both sides in. Now I'm worried that I may have caused metal filings from when I screwed them in (which was hard), but I can't easily find out.

    2. When I connected the SATA power, I think I bent it upwards for a moment and there was a little crick/crack sound, and I figured I may have damaged the connector on the Samsung. It IS the weakest part of the drive, isn't it? But it seems to be fine for now, so I guess I'm worrying over nothing.
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  4.    07 Nov 2017 #44

    At least tell me if the Samsung Limited Warranty covers snapped SATA connectors, which seem to be fragile at best.
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  5. AddRAM's Avatar
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       07 Nov 2017 #45

    You have to be very careful when connecting the power connector to any hard drive. It's better to hold the sata power connector at the front/middle rather than at the back.

    I don't think user breakage is covered by the warranty.

    It's better to ask them than us.
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  6. Ztruker's Avatar
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       07 Nov 2017 #46

    No fragmentation any more. Instead, there is optimization, which the OS handles as needed.

    Here is a good article to read: Donít Waste Time Optimizing Your SSD, Windows Knows What Its Doing

    Just use and enjoy the SSD, don't do anything special with or for it. The more you use it, the more you are taking advantage of the performance it offers.
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  7.    08 Nov 2017 #47

    The posts discussing SSD and file fragmentation are....let's just go with incomplete. But, before I continue: just let Windows 10 handle optimizing the SSD. You don't need to mess with it, Windows handles it just fine.

    SSDs do fragment files. The file fragmentation on the SSD does not affect performance because there is no mechanical read/write head that must move around to read/write the fragments. Windows will TRIM the SSD - which has nothing to do with fragmentation. TRIM only resets the cells with previously written data to them so they can accept new data without having to be reset before the write process.

    Windows 10 will defragment the SSD occasionally - but the reason is not to increase performance. The reason is to keep the file system itself from crashing. The file system maintains a database of the locations of file fragments and that database is limited in size. Windows 10 defragments the SSD occasionally in order to keep that database within it's size limitations.
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  8.    08 Nov 2017 #48

    I decided to take the advice of the person who suggested I mount the SSD on the bracket, and then velcro the bracket to the floor of the PC case. I thought before I'd damaged the power connector but it was fine, and I moved it to the floor, attaching strips of velcro to the bracket's sides at the bottom so as not to damage the label on the SSD, and everything's still working fine and I'm finally satisfied with the result.

    At least now if any problems occur, it should be simple enough to just remove the bracket from the floor, unplug the SSD and unscrew it from the bracket and return it under warranty. The velcro is quite a strong and sturdy grip, too, there's no wobble from what I can sense. I'm surprised no-one's tried this with a 2.5" HDD.
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