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  1.    3 Weeks Ago #1
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 33,920
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & Insider 10 Pro

    Redoing my system


    This is a thread for me to communicate with Kari and other members as I redo my system so as not to disrupt the tutorials. I find this more convenient and more open than PMs also. Any help or suggestions in performing my redo will be welcome. If any questions, please ask.

    I have been and will be using some of Kari's and others' tutorials as listed below. I have my Acer system and/or laptop here for communications, USBs made, and my procedure list in front of me. This is on my dual-boot Asus tower as listed in my specs. Somewhat tricky on a 120GB SSD along with a 2TB internal secondary spinner for personal files and backups.

    While planning, I read some basics in scripting by Kari.

    PowerShell Scripting - The Basics General Tips Tutorials




    System Setup Procedure

    Make backup image

    Create System Image in Windows 10 Backup Restore Tutorials

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect Backup Restore Tutorials

    Backup everything individually:
    Documents
    Pictures
    Videos
    Edge Favorites: C:\Users\MyAccount\MicrosoftEdgeBackups\backups\MicrosoftEdgeBackup > .html file
    IE Favorites: C:\Users\MyAccount\Favorites
    Passwords
    Email addresses
    Have ability to have access to paid programs and/or games to reinstall
    Any software keys

    Set UEFI to default

    Make ISO(s):
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 1 > Preparations - Create USB install media
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    Prepare drive:
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 2 > Preparations - Create DISKPART Script > Use Script One
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 3: Boot from USB
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 4: Run DISKPART script
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    Turn on printer and insert backup thumb drive.

    Install on primary partition:
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 5: Install Primary OS
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    Perform steps below.

    Install on secondary partition:

    Windows Insider - Clean install latest Fast Ring build
    Windows Insider - Clean install latest Fast Ring build Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    Or

    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 6: Install Secondary OS
    DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    After install of each partition system:

    A) Install any peripheral drivers and monitoring software of collection in D:/Asus Setup folder.
    B) Change saving files to secondary D: drive in Settings app > System > Storage > Change where new content is saved.
    C) Set up OneDrive in its settings. Make sure to have latest version.
    D) Install UWP apps (from Store library), Office 365, and other software.
    E) Perform Disk Cleanup.
    F) Turn BitLocker on.
    G) Optimize D: drive
    H) On install of Insider fast ring perform Registry hack to enter Skip Ahead branch.
    I) Make backup image.
    Last edited by HippsieGypsie; 3 Weeks Ago at 07:28.
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  2.    3 Weeks Ago #2
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
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    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quite honestly still torn between MR and W7 backup which continues in FCU 1709. That'll be a little down the road, though.
    As a long-term user of the built-in 'create a system image' on my test machine, I can confirm it still works as well as it ever did in the FCU 1709. I've done both the backup and the restore (several times now). It can only be a matter of time before MS shifts it from 'deprecated' to 'removed' though.
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  3.    3 Weeks Ago #3
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,976
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Any help or suggestions in performing my redo will be welcome. If any questions, please ask.
    A solid plan. Keep us up to date about how it's going.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bree View Post
    It can only be a matter of time before MS shifts it from 'deprecated' to 'removed' though.
    That's the main reason why I recommend using Macrium. Having said that, Windows native imaging is like all Windows features: when used as instructed, it works.
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  4.    3 Weeks Ago #4
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 4,517
    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    That's the main reason why I recommend using Macrium. Having said that, Windows native imaging is like all Windows features: when used as instructed, it works.
    And when abused (like renaming or moving images) it can fall flat on it's face - as I have found to my cost. I know all the pitfalls now and how far I can go before breaking it

    It will be an interesting experiment if/when it is removed to see if an earlier sdclt.exe with it's associated sdclt.exe.mui will still work. I agree though, Macrium is the best way forwards.
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  5.    3 Weeks Ago #5
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 33,920
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & Insider 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    @Kari and others

    I edited my OP adding a procedure list I made in Word. If you have time will you look it over? I can edit if need be as I go along.

    Questions:

    I think not, but just to be sure > Does BIOS need to be set to default to make ISO(s)?

    I will set BIOS to default before starting and make sure it boots from USB. Does secure boot and/or fast boot need to be turned off?

    Anything else to set BIOS to?

    With setting D: as my “Save-to” drive with both OSs/systems > Will that work, or will there be conflict?
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  6.    3 Weeks Ago #6
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Just to clarify, when you speak about BIOS you mean UEFI? You will set up your dual boot on GPT disk, switching from current MBR?

    Your list on first post:

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    A) Install with local account then change to MS account immediately.
    I do it always like that, just to ensure I'll get user profile named as I want to.


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    B) On install of Insider fast ring perform Registry hack to enter Skip Ahead branch.
    Plenty of time to do that, no need to rush. Normal fast Ring and Skippy will remain the same until at least late January.


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    C) Install any peripheral drivers and monitoring software of collection in D:/Asus Setup folder.
    Nothing wrong with that.


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    D) Change saving files to secondary D: drive in Settings app > System > Storage > Change where new content is saved.
    Just to avoid any future permissions issues, if you will use user folder properties to move location of Documents, Pictures, Videos, Music and so on, I would create root folders on D: for each OS, then user folders for each OS under the main OS folder:
    - D:\OS1\Documents
    - D:\OS1\Pictures
    -- AND --
    - D:\OS2\Documents
    - D:\OS2\Pictures


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    E) Set up OneDrive in its settings. Make sure to have latest version.
    Yes.


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    F) Install UWP apps, Office 365, and other software.
    Yes.


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    G) Perform Disk Cleanup.
    Yes.


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    H) Perform chkdsk.
    In my opinion, at this point a bit overreacting but does no harm.


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I) Optimize drive(s) > Optimize D: Only in FCU.
    Honestly, that's a step I'll never do, no answer.


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    J) Make backup image.
    Yes.
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  7.    3 Weeks Ago #7
    Join Date : Nov 2013
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    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & Insider 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Just to clarify, when you speak about BIOS you mean UEFI? You will set up your dual boot on GPT disk, switching from current MBR?
    I meant UEFI. Yes, GPT as your preparation script will perform.

    I do it always like that, just to ensure I'll get user profile named as I want to.
    Got that from reading your posts.

    Just to avoid any future permissions issues, if you will use user folder properties to move location of Documents, Pictures, Videos, Music and so on, I would create root folders on D: for each OS, then user folders for each OS under the main OS folder:
    - D:\OS1\Documents
    - D:\OS1\Pictures
    -- AND --
    - D:\OS2\Documents
    - D:\OS2\Pictures
    Ok. Got it.

    In my opinion, at this point a bit overreacting but does no harm.
    You're right. The system will and correct if anything is wrong.

    Honestly, that's a step I'll never do, no answer.
    Not my SSD, but rather my spinner, although I know that a part of auto maintenance as well. I just like to do it straightway after install.

    Ok on the rest. Thanks.
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  8.    3 Weeks Ago #8
    Join Date : Nov 2013
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    Ok, well, here I go. Almost 8:00pm/20:00 here. Let's see how long this takes me.

    Edit: Here it is 10:00pm/22:00 and I finally got it to start installing to GPT partition. At first I kept getting the warning "Windows cannot be installed on this partition. It is of a GPT type". This is what happened the last time I installed, got frustrated, and ended up installing MBR scheme. Come to find out I was not saving the BIOS to defaults. It doesn't ask for that like my Acer BIOS does upon exit.

    10:30/22:30: Wow. That was a quick install. First time with Cortana speaking. I spoke some of my answers. Nifty. Setting it up...

    11:35/22:35: Installing IP....

    Midnight: Wow. 25 minute install. Quick. I'll do some steps, then bed for me. Long day. Overall install would've been quicker had I not run into that snag.

    Great job, Kari!


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  9.    3 Weeks Ago #9
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,976
    Windows 10 Pro

    Good to know you got it done as planned!
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  10.    3 Weeks Ago #10

    I did a local account first this time with FCU and I noticed they seem to have changed it. Before you would only get the first name, even on a local account. Now if you enter your full name it uses it verbatim.
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