Redoing my system

Tony K · 27 Oct 2017

This is a thread for me to communicate with Kari and other members as I redo my system so as not to disrupt the tutorials. I find this more convenient and more open than PMs also. Any help or suggestions in performing my redo will be welcome. If any questions, please ask.

I have been and will be using some of Kari's and others' tutorials as listed below. I have my Acer system and/or laptop here for communications, USBs made, and my procedure list in front of me. This is on my dual-boot Asus tower as listed in my specs. Somewhat tricky on a 120GB SSD along with a 2TB internal secondary spinner for personal files and backups.

While planning, I read some basics in scripting by Kari.

PowerShell Scripting - The Basics General Tips Tutorials

System Setup Procedure

Make backup image

Create System Image in Windows 10 Backup Restore Tutorials

Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect Backup Restore Tutorials

Backup everything individually:
Documents
Pictures
Videos
Edge Favorites: C:\Users\MyAccount\MicrosoftEdgeBackups\backups\MicrosoftEdgeBackup > .html file
IE Favorites: C:\Users\MyAccount\Favorites
Passwords
Email addresses
Have ability to have access to paid programs and/or games to reinstall
Any software keys

Set UEFI to default

Make ISO(s):
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 1 > Preparations - Create USB install media
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

Prepare drive:
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 2 > Preparations - Create DISKPART Script > Use Script One
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 3: Boot from USB
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 4: Run DISKPART script
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

Turn on printer and insert backup thumb drive.

Install on primary partition:
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 5: Install Primary OS
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

Perform steps below.

Install on secondary partition:

Windows Insider - Clean install latest Fast Ring build
Windows Insider - Clean install latest Fast Ring build Installation Upgrade Tutorials

Or

DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk > Step 6: Install Secondary OS
DISKPART - How to Partition GPT disk Installation Upgrade Tutorials

After install of each partition system:

A) Install any peripheral drivers and monitoring software of collection in D:/Asus Setup folder.
B) Change saving files to secondary D: drive in Settings app > System > Storage > Change where new content is saved.
C) Set up OneDrive in its settings. Make sure to have latest version.
D) Install UWP apps (from Store library), Office 365, and other software.
E) Perform Disk Cleanup.
F) Turn BitLocker on.
G) Optimize D: drive
H) On install of Insider fast ring perform Registry hack to enter Skip Ahead branch.
I) Make backup image.

Bree · 27 Oct 2017

HippsieGypsie said:

Quite honestly still torn between MR and W7 backup which continues in FCU 1709. That'll be a little down the road, though.

As a long-term user of the built-in 'create a system image' on my test machine, I can confirm it still works as well as it ever did in the FCU 1709. I've done both the backup and the restore (several times now). It can only be a matter of time before MS shifts it from 'deprecated' to 'removed' though.

Kari · 27 Oct 2017

HippsieGypsie said:

Any help or suggestions in performing my redo will be welcome. If any questions, please ask.

A solid plan. Keep us up to date about how it's going.

Bree said:

It can only be a matter of time before MS shifts it from 'deprecated' to 'removed' though.

That's the main reason why I recommend using Macrium. Having said that, Windows native imaging is like all Windows features: when used as instructed, it works.

Bree · 27 Oct 2017

Kari said:

That's the main reason why I recommend using Macrium. Having said that, Windows native imaging is like all Windows features: when used as instructed, it works.

And when abused (like renaming or moving images) it can fall flat on it's face - as I have found to my cost. I know all the pitfalls now and how far I can go before breaking it :)

It will be an interesting experiment if/when it is removed to see if an earlier sdclt.exe with it's associated sdclt.exe.mui will still work. I agree though, Macrium is the best way forwards.

Tony K · 27 Oct 2017

@Kari and others

I edited my OP adding a procedure list I made in Word. If you have time will you look it over? I can edit if need be as I go along.

Questions:

I think not, but just to be sure > Does BIOS need to be set to default to make ISO(s)?

I will set BIOS to default before starting and make sure it boots from USB. Does secure boot and/or fast boot need to be turned off?

Anything else to set BIOS to?

With setting D: as my “Save-to” drive with both OSs/systems > Will that work, or will there be conflict?

Kari · 27 Oct 2017

Just to clarify, when you speak about BIOS you mean UEFI? You will set up your dual boot on GPT disk, switching from current MBR?

Your list on first post:

HippsieGypsie said:

A) Install with local account then change to MS account immediately.

I do it always like that, just to ensure I'll get user profile named as I want to.

HippsieGypsie said:

B) On install of Insider fast ring perform Registry hack to enter Skip Ahead branch.

Plenty of time to do that, no need to rush. Normal fast Ring and Skippy will remain the same until at least late January.

HippsieGypsie said:

C) Install any peripheral drivers and monitoring software of collection in D:/Asus Setup folder.

Nothing wrong with that.

HippsieGypsie said:

D) Change saving files to secondary D: drive in Settings app > System > Storage > Change where new content is saved.

Just to avoid any future permissions issues, if you will use user folder properties to move location of Documents, Pictures, Videos, Music and so on, I would create root folders on D: for each OS, then user folders for each OS under the main OS folder:

- D:\OS1\Documents
- D:\OS1\Pictures
-- AND --
- D:\OS2\Documents
- D:\OS2\Pictures

HippsieGypsie said:

E) Set up OneDrive in its settings. Make sure to have latest version.

Yes.

HippsieGypsie said:

F) Install UWP apps, Office 365, and other software.

Yes.

HippsieGypsie said:

G) Perform Disk Cleanup.

Yes.

HippsieGypsie said:

H) Perform chkdsk.

In my opinion, at this point a bit overreacting but does no harm.

HippsieGypsie said:

I) Optimize drive(s) > Optimize D: Only in FCU.

Honestly, that's a step I'll never do, no answer.

HippsieGypsie said:

J) Make backup image.

Yes.

Tony K · 27 Oct 2017

Kari said:

Just to clarify, when you speak about BIOS you mean UEFI? You will set up your dual boot on GPT disk, switching from current MBR?

I meant UEFI. Yes, GPT as your preparation script will perform.

I do it always like that, just to ensure I'll get user profile named as I want to.

Got that from reading your posts. :)

Just to avoid any future permissions issues, if you will use user folder properties to move location of Documents, Pictures, Videos, Music and so on, I would create root folders on D: for each OS, then user folders for each OS under the main OS folder:

- D:\OS1\Documents
- D:\OS1\Pictures
-- AND --
- D:\OS2\Documents
- D:\OS2\Pictures

Ok. Got it.

In my opinion, at this point a bit overreacting but does no harm.

You're right. The system will and correct if anything is wrong.

Honestly, that's a step I'll never do, no answer.

Not my SSD, but rather my spinner, although I know that a part of auto maintenance as well. I just like to do it straightway after install.

Ok on the rest. Thanks. :)

Tony K · 27 Oct 2017

Ok, well, here I go. Almost 8:00pm/20:00 here. Let's see how long this takes me.

Edit: Here it is 10:00pm/22:00 and I finally got it to start installing to GPT partition. At first I kept getting the warning "Windows cannot be installed on this partition. It is of a GPT type". This is what happened the last time I installed, got frustrated, and ended up installing MBR scheme. Come to find out I was not saving the BIOS to defaults. It doesn't ask for that like my Acer BIOS does upon exit.

10:30/22:30: Wow. That was a quick install. First time with Cortana speaking. I spoke some of my answers. Nifty. Setting it up...

11:35/22:35: Installing IP....

Midnight: Wow. 25 minute install. Quick. I'll do some steps, then bed for me. Long day. Overall install would've been quicker had I not run into that snag.

Great job, Kari!

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Kari · 28 Oct 2017

Good to know you got it done as planned!

swarfega · 28 Oct 2017

I did a local account first this time with FCU and I noticed they seem to have changed it. Before you would only get the first name, even on a local account. Now if you enter your full name it uses it verbatim.