Windows 10: Clean install of Fall Creators Update and State Repository Service

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  1.    4 Weeks Ago #31

    coch said: View Post
    After testing many more times (always 1709 clean installs), as I wrote in my previous post this issue always goes away by itself for me. My previous observation was that the issue resolved by itself 24 to 36 hours after installing Windows 10 but it seems like only 8 to 20 hours are enough after all.
    I can reproduce this every time. I reproduced at least a dozen times since my previous post, and it never behaved in a different way.
    I have all auto-updates turned off (Windows 10 Pro), including drivers, etc... so what Windows does to fix the problem isn't due to installing updates.
    To me it looks like after installing Windows 10, Windows needs some time to "settle" during which it does other operations, possibly meaning that after a clean install, even when you boot into Windows it may not be fully installed. That's just my guess and I don't know that for sure, but certainly looks like it since the problem is present after clean install, but goes away after several hours, even without installing any driver, any update, any software, or changing any configuration in Windows.
    Anyone knows what post-install operations Windows does? Anyone with knowledge/insight about the Windows install routine? I'd be very curious to see if we can narrow down to whatever Windows does at some point post-install in order to fix this problem. Obviously, with the goal of being able to trigger the change or issue a command earlier and not having to wait for many hours for the change to happen.
    Also ran into this problem and associated frustrations; like others reinstalling/repairing/updating made no difference. Was resigned to wait out the 8-20 hours after seeing your encouraging post. On a whim opted to do a comprehensive disk clean up using using the integrated tool including nearly everything else listed under "Clean up system files". The Windows update reconciliation took an inordinate amount of time given the fresh install status. However, when complete the system responded as normal. Elapsed time <1 hour. Might have been coincidental but thought I would post findings (err...1 data point) here as a possible aid to others.
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 1709
       4 Weeks Ago #32

    Aha! you might be on to something. I'll reformat/clean install again tonight or tomorrow and test this out.


    EDIT:
    Ok I was too curious and had to try right now, and unfortunately this didn't help for me.
    Just to make sure, you used the "Disk Cleanup" utility that it finds when typing disk cleanup in the start menu right? Then check off every box in the cleaner and run this?

    This is what I did and it didn't help.
    I also tried another cleanup, in case this is the one you referred to: Under "Storage" in Windows settings, you have the option to free up space.

    I tried that one too, rebooted, and problem still exists.
    Same if I manually start Automatic Maintenance from the control panel + reboot, issue still present.

    So it might have been your Windows Update process that changed something. I may have to try that. I always apply updates via pre-downloaded .msu files (via batch file of my own), so Windows updates finds nothing, but maybe I ought to try without the .msu updating and let Windows Update do it's thing.
    Last edited by coch; 4 Weeks Ago at 23:26. Reason: updated information
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  3.    2 Weeks Ago #33

    coch said: View Post
    Aha! you might be on to something. I'll reformat/clean install again tonight or tomorrow and test this out.
    EDIT:
    Ok I was too curious and had to try right now, and unfortunately this didn't help for me.
    Just to make sure, you used the "Disk Cleanup" utility that it finds when typing disk cleanup in the start menu right? Then check off every box in the cleaner and run this?

    This is what I did and it didn't help.
    I also tried another cleanup, in case this is the one you referred to: Under "Storage" in Windows settings, you have the option to free up space.
    I tried that one too, rebooted, and problem still exists.
    Same if I manually start Automatic Maintenance from the control panel + reboot, issue still present.
    So it might have been your Windows Update process that changed something. I may have to try that. I always apply updates via pre-downloaded .msu files (via batch file of my own), so Windows updates finds nothing, but maybe I ought to try without the .msu updating and let Windows Update do it's thing.
    Sorry it didn't work out for you. As noted in my original post I might have been the beneficiary of fortuitous timing although the 'wait' period in my case was about an hour vs 8-20 hours suggested in your post. I didn't take any 'normal' OTA Windows updates following the initial 1709 install as prior attempts suggested this action provided no relief. So the glitch remains a mystery for now as I have no immediate need to rebuild any Win 10 machines. A Microsoft engineer somewhere knows why but he/she isn't talking. Hopefully a 'fix' will be quietly rolled into 1803.
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