Windows 10: Install W10 Pro without having a key yet ? Solved

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  1.    07 Oct 2017 #11

    RobDownUnder said: View Post
    Sorry if I was not clear.
    The original drive (the one that came with the Asus laptop) is 750GB. It originally had W8, and during the free period it was auto updated to W10 Pro 64bit.
    That drive is disintegrating (severely), and cannot boot (continuously attempts to repair, and cannot complete that)
    I had a 40GB lying around, that probably had XP in it in the past.
    I have replaced the 750GB with the 40GB, and I wish to install W10 Pro 64bit into it
    Then it will activate automatically - no need to buy a new licence.
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       07 Oct 2017 #12

    RobDownUnder said: View Post
    Sorry if I was not clear.
    The original drive (the one that came with the Asus laptop) is 750GB. It originally had W8, and during the free period it was auto updated to W10 Pro 64bit.
    That drive is disintegrating (severely), and cannot boot (continuously attempts to repair, and cannot complete that)
    I had a 40GB lying around, that probably had XP in it in the past.
    I have replaced the 750GB with the 40GB, and I wish to install W10 Pro 64bit into it
    We understood you. It will activate. If by any chance he/you have a problem, run the activation troubleshooter.
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    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       07 Oct 2017 #13

    RobDownUnder said: View Post
    ... It originally had W8, and during the free period it was auto updated to W10 Pro 64bit...
    Then it has a digital licence on Microsoft's activation servers. A change of HDD doesn't count as a significant hardware. Being a W8 machine it should have the original key embedded in the firmware. Setup should find this and install Pro again without asking for a key.

    If it doesn't, choose to install Pro and skip entering a key if asked. Activation will be automatic as soon as it can contact the activation servers.
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    Win 10 Pro x64 1607 (Build 14393.953)
       07 Oct 2017 #14

    Plankton said: View Post
    Since this is a laptop....odds are that it's an OEM install and most likely wont self activate using the ISO from the media creation tool. More than likely a phone call to MS to reactivate it is going to be needed. And for that you can use this link.......
    Activate Office 2010 - Office Support
    Just a side note!

    My customer experience with the MS service desk, regarding a new reactivation for a Win 8 OEM license I moved from a Mac Pro 3.1 to a Mac Pro 5.1 - so different hardware - was top notch! My MS NPS=10 therefore. Install W10 Pro without having a key yet ?

    Good Luck & Cheers
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  5.    07 Oct 2017 #15

    Bree said: View Post
    The original RTM 10240 called it a 'digital entitlement'. The name later changed to a 'digital licence', but as far as the activation servers are concerned it's one and the same thing.
    Yes but there was one difference in 10240. If you installed Windows 10 (instead of upgrade) using a product key, you did not get granted digital entltlement, and had to re-enter key upon a new install.

    In later versions (can't remember if TH2 or AU), you got granted a digital licence if you used a product key to install it, and no longer needed a product key. So at least from AU onwards, you do not need to re-enter product key any more.

    It is all irrelevant now, as OP has confirmed PC was upgraded to Windows 10 before drive failed from Windows 8 so will have a digital licence.
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    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       07 Oct 2017 #16

    cereberus said: View Post
    ...there was one difference in 10240. If you installed Windows 10 (instead of upgrade) using a product key, you did not get granted digital entltlement, and had to re-enter key upon a new install...
    Thanks for the clarification. My 10240 was an upgrade, so I didn't get to see that.
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       07 Oct 2017 #17

    (Snicker) I suppose legally there is a difference between digital entitlement vs digital license, but MS seems to have trouble naming things either of themselves or by others. Remember the SkyDrive fiasco?
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  8.    07 Oct 2017 #18

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    (Snicker) I suppose legally there is a difference between digital entitlement vs digital license, but MS seems to have trouble naming things either of themselves or by others. Remember the SkyDrive fiasco?
    It was simple rename as the term entitlement was unclear.
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  9.    07 Oct 2017 #19

    Thanks for all the help from all of you.
    It went through the install up to the point where it asks me to sign in to the MS account.
    I put his email address (but it perhaps should be the wife ?).
    It is awaiting me entering the password.
    It is 3 AM here in Aust, so I won't be ringing him till tomorrow.
    I have left it turned on, as it seems content to sit there awaiting the password.
    I notice there is no back button (in the event I should have used the wife's email address instead).
    If we are in trouble at that spot, what should I google to get an appropriate MS Aust phone number ?
    Thanks,
    Rob
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  10.    07 Oct 2017 #20

    Hit cancel or back, and it should go back, and then click link near bottom to enter an offline account (local account). Then you can choose to enter any name and password you like. You can change it to an MS account after installation.
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