Oct 17 Creators Fall update

SoFine409 · 16 Sep 2017

cereberus said:

Re. Sunday - Computers do not care what day of the week it is.

Very true. They are more than capable of misbehaving any day of the week!

Steve C · 17 Sep 2017

NavyLCDR said:

I agree with @cereberus. There is likely something wrong with your Windows at this point blocking the upgrade.

I still haven't been offered the CU on my 3 year old Dell Inspiron 7537 laptop - but my laptop is not listed by Dell as 'compatible' with the CU. The CU may not be offered to some PCs due to hardware / driver issues.

Cliff S · 17 Sep 2017

Steve C said:

I still haven't been offered the CU on my 3 year old Dell Inspiron 7537 laptop - but my laptop is not listed by Dell as 'compatible' with the CU. The CU may not be offered to some PCs due to hardware / driver issues.

I can't understand that

My ASUS X54C from 2011 is on CU.
And actually, it is only good for Win7(original OS) and & Win8.1
There are no drivers for Win10 on the ASUS site for it, but, the ones from Microsoft run great.
Of course I don't wait for Windows Update, and download the ISO ASAP, because I have 2 desktops and a laptop to upgrade, and it is just faster and more reliable that way to do it.

I upgrade them individually(one by one), with the others turned on, so the machine being upgraded doesn't loose connection with Homegroup, so it will connect automatically back. Otherwise the Homegroup upgrade bug, where after an upgrade, it needs to be manually reconnected to the Homegroup(and it is a real headache to do it) happens.

Clint · 17 Sep 2017

Bree said:

That is an interesting question. What would windows update do left to its own devices? Skip to the latest or install them one after the other?

I have a 1511 image for my test machine so I restored that and checked for updates. It's Pro, so I tried it with and without 'defer updates'.

Defer updates turned on it found: 'Features update to windows 10, version 1607'
Defer updates turned off it skipped that, instead finding: 'Windows 10 Creators Update Privacy Settings (KB4013214)'

Thanks Bree. My Defer Update was Not Configured. I changed it to disabled and checked for updates. Low and behold, It got the 1703 update. Should I change it back to not configured or leave it to disable or enabled? I never have changed it before. Thanks again Bree, It's been a long time.

Bree · 17 Sep 2017

Clint said:

My Defer Update was Not Configured. I changed it to disabled...

That would be gpedit you are talking about. For my tests I just used the 'defer' setting in Settings > Update & security > Windows update > Advanced options. I didn't touch gpedit, so it would still have been set to 'not configured' while I was testing.

In general, 'not configured' is the more appropriate option in gpedit. The 'not configured' option means there's no group policy one way or the other. You may see a red 'some settings are managed by your organisation' message appear in a Settings page if you use 'enabled' or 'disabled'. Just setting a group policy counts as 'management by your organisation', even if its effects are to give the user full control.

...checked for updates. Low and behold, It got the 1703 update.

I suspect you may have turned on 'defer' in Settings a while back and forgotten about it, that's why you hadn't been finding 1703 and disabling it with gpedit let you find it at last. I would set gpedit back to 'not configured' and check your Windows update's advanced options.

Craig Fergusson · 18 Sep 2017

I'm not holding my breath for this one, to be honest. Windows 10 is getting more and more ridiculous in what it adds to the plate. I still love it more than any alternative (I mean, at least it's not as pathetic in terms of default programs as Mac and has a spellchecker in Word, which is somehow still a novelty to some), but seriously, this update looks like painting over a crumbling wall. When your system features include "unofficial" file conversion and support for new version of programs with the functionality of other programs like VLC, this is seriously sad.