1.    14 Sep 2017 #1

    Upgrading not going well


    I am on build 1511 and I was ready to wipe my drive this morning and install 1703. I got the ISO from the Microsoft website and had it loaded to my thumb. But my first step did not go well so I wanted to ask what is the preferred method.

    Old days I use Parted Magic to secure erase an SSD, but today it does not see my Nvme Sammy 950 Pro. Maybe the version I have only sees SATA drives? Unhooked my spinny D and still no joy. So then I tried using the secure erase in the BIOS (Asus Maximus Hero VIII) and it too does not see the sammy.

    So went to read up and it seems like there is a split. Some say to update to 1703 via the Windows update and some say to update via the wipe and install. So now I am second guessing the secure erase method; if it is even needed or is there any benefit. Is using the older method still stand today meaning use some sort of secure erase? I did turn off secure boot and fast startup, but did I miss something else in the UEFI? Or just use the Windows update to 1703?

    Or should I wait for the 1709 since it IS around the corner?
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  2.    14 Sep 2017 #2
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    I've got computers that started on the original build 10240 and have upgraded up through version 1703 now with no issues. I do the upgrades manually. As soon as it is available, I download the ISO file for the new version. Then I mount it within Windows and run setup.exe from the mounted ISO file.

    Inserting the Windows 10 USB flash drive with Windows running and running setup.exe from the flash drive will be the same as running it from a mounted ISO file.

    If you want to do a clean install, boot the computer from the USB flash drive. Go through the steps until you get to the one asking for upgrade or custom install. Pick custom install. On the next screen see if the SSD is listed with the existing partitions on it. If it is, then delete each partition on the SSD until it is nothing but unallocated space. Highlight the unallocated space and click Next to let Windows 10 set it up.

    There is no need for a secure erase of the SDD unless you are going to sell/give away the laptop and concerned about private information getting recovered.
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  3.    14 Sep 2017 #3
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    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)

    An addition to the above message:

    Before you start the install process, make sure you have versions of USB and Samsung NVMe drivers available that the setup media can read and load. This is important, or your installation is almost guaranteed to fail.

    First fail will be that Windows setup can not see your USB device and copy files from it (the setup program is loaded to RAM only). Second one would be that Setup can not see your NVMe drive.

    So copy the required drivers to the same USB stick and make sure they are loaded automatically or manually during setup.
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  4.    14 Sep 2017 #4

    @NavyLCDR - did this and all is well on 1703 now. Thanks
    @slicendice - great point. did it and all is well.

    Thanks to both of you
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  5.    14 Sep 2017 #5
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    Windows 10 Pro IP Build 16299.19 (Branch: RS3 Release)

    Quote Originally Posted by AirPower4ever View Post
    @NavyLCDR - did this and all is well on 1703 now. Thanks
    @slicendice - great point. did it and all is well.

    Thanks to both of you
    Awesome!
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