Windows 10: Ms you are going BONKERS -- Can't create recovery drive !!!!!!!

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  1.    24 Jul 2015 #1

    Ms you are going BONKERS -- Can't create recovery drive !!!!!!!


    Hi there

    what sort of B/S is this -- surely a product this near to RTM (build 10240) should have an option to create a RECOVERY drive.

    I'd just LOVE to lock some of those I.T managers into a room with no Restrooms (WC's / bogs etc) with some users who could sit down together and FIX this stuff until it was ALL 100% working -- certainly BASIC functionality like this should be second nature --if you can't guarantee either the integrity of your OS or the possibility of recovery --then what on earth are those managers getting paid for.

    I know I can restore an image --I wanted to test Recovery which is what a typical user might do if their system doesn't boot.

    Any ideas --build 10240.


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 1,582
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       24 Jul 2015 #2

    It is free, beta, pre-release software.

    Microsoft has never said 10240 was RTM, only some of their loose cannons may have implied it.

    It is a lookalike with a plausible, but meaningless EULA, but nonetheless pre-release which will be a few days away on the 29th.

    It is full of bugs and still has developer code which you might expect in beta software.

    Report the failings to the Insider feedback, Microsoft Answers or Technet, if you want them to do something about it, but don't be surprised if it works no better than the stuff that we have been using for years as fully paid up Windows Operating systems, which still do not do all that we expect them to do. Windows backup springs to mind as we transitioned from 7 to 8.
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  3.    24 Jul 2015 #3

    I've found that it sometimes works and it sometimes fails. I don't know what factors are making the difference.

    I do know that when it works, it can be a lot better than the Windows 8.x version. For instance it can be configured to reinstall Windows and your 3rd-party software. But I suspect this extra complexity is why it isn't reliable yet.
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  4.    24 Jul 2015 #4

    Seems like a strange thing to leave to the end of development, sure hope they get it right the first time
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  5.    24 Jul 2015 #5

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    It is free, beta, pre-release software.

    Microsoft has never said 10240 was RTM, only some of their loose cannons may have implied it.

    It is a lookalike with a plausible, but meaningless EULA, but nonetheless pre-release which will be a few days away on the 29th.

    It is full of bugs and still has developer code which you might expect in beta software.

    Report the failings to the Insider feedback, Microsoft Answers or Technet, if you want them to do something about it, but don't be surprised if it works no better than the stuff that we have been using for years as fully paid up Windows Operating systems, which still do not do all that we expect them to do. Windows backup springs to mind as we transitioned from 7 to 8.
    HI there

    while that is true -- Ms has stated that the ONLY official way of installing 10240 is via an UPGRADE -- so what are you expected to do if you break something and it won't boot.

    (I know of course you should take a 3rd party backup -- but that in some cases for the average user is a bit overkill. They might have made a mistake or deleted a file which prevents Windows from booting --a simple REPAIR WINDOWS should be the first chance to fix something before doing a full blown restore).

    This sort of stuff IMO should be a PRORITY if Ms say theyonly official way to install build 10240 is via an update. So do they expect people to find their previous build and update again (new 3GB download of course !!!!).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6.    24 Jul 2015 #6

    No, the only way to get the free upgrade is to upgrade. After you have upgraded, you can install clean if there is a problem. I would suggest that you do so (I did, just a few days ago) It will automatically activate even though it's a clean install, *IF* you have already done an upgrade.
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  7. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       24 Jul 2015 #7

    Mystere said: View Post
    No, the only way to get the free upgrade is to upgrade. After you have upgraded, you can install clean if there is a problem. I would suggest that you do so (I did, just a few days ago) It will automatically activate even though it's a clean install, *IF* you have already done an upgrade.
    ummmm, 10.0.240 was also only available thought WU

    How did you do a clean install?
    I just checked and there is no PC ISO download (button is inactive), phone yes, PC no.
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    I agree with you that Win10 will automatically activate when you do a clean install IF you've done the upgrade - not 100% certain of that, but fairly confident.
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  8. Posts : 4,999
    Windows 10 Pro X64 15063.138
       24 Jul 2015 #8

    Probably used the ESDtoISO tool to create a ISO then did a Clean Install with it.

    Create Recovery Drive worked okay for me when I tried it. Don't know if I tried it with 10240 or not, will try again in a bit.
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  9.    24 Jul 2015 #9

    Slartybart said: View Post
    ummmm, 10.0.240 was also only available thought WU

    How did you do a clean install?
    I just checked and there is no PC ISO download (button is inactive), phone yes, PC no.
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    I agree with you that Win10 will automatically activate when you do a clean install IF you've done the upgrade - not 100% certain of that, but fairly confident.
    I grabbed the ESD from the upgrade and converted it to ISO
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  10.    24 Jul 2015 #10

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there

    what sort of B/S is this -- surely a product this near to RTM (build 10240) should have an option to create a RECOVERY drive.

    I'd just LOVE to lock some of those I.T managers into a room with no Restrooms (WC's / bogs etc) with some users who could sit down together and FIX this stuff until it was ALL 100% working -- certainly BASIC functionality like this should be second nature --if you can't guarantee either the integrity of your OS or the possibility of recovery --then what on earth are those managers getting paid for.

    I know I can restore an image --I wanted to test Recovery which is what a typical user might do if their system doesn't boot.

    Any ideas --build 10240.


    Cheers
    jimbo
    Apparently my thinking has been wrong on this. It is my understanding that most computers have a drive D which is the recovery drive. It has everything you need to put the computer back to the original factory settings. So I thought that even if you do a clean install with Windows 10, it will not do a thing to drive D which you can still use for recovery. Have I been wrong on this?
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