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  1.    29 Jun 2017 #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by tracit99 View Post
    In Windows 10 from an administrative command prompt type bcdboot c:\windows and press return. I know this will make Windows 10 the default. I am not sure if it will restore the GUI boot menu.
    Windows 10 is already the default but not first in the Boot Manager display order. Do not believe it will resolve the GUI Boot.
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  2.    29 Jun 2017 #62
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    Have installed EasyBCD and launched it. Whoa, I got a warning that not all features are available because it has detected EFI on my PC. From the View Menu it has no knowledge of my Windows 7 installation.
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  3.    29 Jun 2017 #63
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    Here is what EasyBCD View shows and what BCDedit /enum shows from a Command Prompt.

    EasyBCD
    =======


    There is one entry in the Windows bootloader.
    Path: C:\Users\Nolly\Documents\EasyBCD Backup (2017-02-24).bcd

    Default: Windows 10
    Timeout: 3 seconds
    EasyBCD Boot Device: C:\

    Entry #1
    Name: Windows 10
    BCD ID: {default}
    Drive: C:\
    Bootloader Path: \WINDOWS\system32\winload.efi

    Command Prompt
    ==============


    C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /enum

    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    path \EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-us
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {current}
    resumeobject {7edf735f-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    displayorder {7edf7360-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    {current}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 5

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {7edf7360-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    device partition=D:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description Windows 7
    locale en-us
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    osdevice partition=D:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {7edf735f-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    nx OptIn
    detecthal Yes

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description Windows 10
    locale en-us
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    isolatedcontext Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {6d77cf38-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    nx OptIn
    bootmenupolicy Standard
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  4.    29 Jun 2017 #64
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    You'll have to manually load the BCD file the computer is actually using in order to edit it. Will check that out when I get home.
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  5.    29 Jun 2017 #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    You'll have to manually load the BCD file the computer is actually using in order to edit it. Will check that out when I get home.
    What I have done is to install EasyBCD on my Windows 7 partition and run it. I still get the warning about my PC using EFI mode (no surprise). From View I could see both boot entries. Using Edit I moved the Windows 10 entry above the Windows 7 entry. Also ticked the Metro box as I believe this should provide what I have been calling the GUI Boot.

    This has solved the first issue in that Windows 10, is now, not only the default boot option but is first in the display order. It has not resolved the Boot Manager Menu which is still showing text rather than icons. Had the same issue last year with EasyBCD and my old Laptop.
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  6.    29 Jun 2017 #66
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    From Windows 10 I now have.

    EasyBCD
    =======

    There is one entry in the Windows bootloader.
    Path: C:\Users\Nolly\Documents\EasyBCD Backup (2017-02-24).bcd

    Default: Windows 10
    Timeout: 3 seconds
    EasyBCD Boot Device: C:\

    Entry #1
    Name: Windows 10
    BCD ID: {default}
    Drive: C:\
    Bootloader Path: \WINDOWS\system32\winload.efi

    So, still no knowledge of Windows 7. Look at those that I have emboldened. The date is from 5 days ago! The boot timeout has been set to 5 seconds so why is EasyBCD showing 3 seconds.

    Command Prompt
    ==============

    C:\Windows\system32>BCDedit /enum

    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier {bootmgr}
    device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
    path \EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-US
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {current}
    resumeobject {7edf735f-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    displayorder {9c1ac511-3173-11e6-b87b-f832e4a0980c}
    {dfa64c7b-5975-11e7-ab1f-3052cb386402}
    {7edf7364-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    {7edf7365-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    {7edf7366-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    {current}
    {7edf7360-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 5

    Firmware Application (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identifier {9c1ac511-3173-11e6-b87b-f832e4a0980c}
    description Hard Drive
    custom:250000c2 1

    Firmware Application (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identifier {dfa64c7b-5975-11e7-ab1f-3052cb386402}
    description CD/DVD Drive
    custom:250000c2 1

    Firmware Application (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identifier {7edf7364-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    description UEFI:CD/DVD Drive
    custom:250000c2 1

    Firmware Application (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identifier {7edf7365-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    description UEFI:Removable Device
    custom:250000c2 1

    Firmware Application (101fffff)
    -------------------------------
    identifier {7edf7366-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    description UEFI:Network Device
    custom:250000c2 1

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description Windows 10
    locale en-us
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    isolatedcontext Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {6d77cf38-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    nx OptIn
    bootmenupolicy Standard
    quietboot Yes

    Windows Boot Loader
    -------------------
    identifier {7edf7360-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    device partition=D:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description Windows 7
    locale en-us
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    osdevice partition=D:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {7edf735f-5b7c-11e7-ab38-3052cb386402}
    nx OptIn
    bootmenupolicy Standard
    detecthal Yes

    This has some very strange entries including two BootLoader entries. Also look at all those IDs (if that is what they are) that are showing in the Windows Boot Loader display order!
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  7.    29 Jun 2017 #67
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    You need to have a drive letter assigned to the EFI System Partition. We did Z: drive in my earlier instructions, so I am going to use Z: drive. In EasyBCD you want to click File -> Select BCD Store. Then open Z:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot and the BCD file there.
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  8.    29 Jun 2017 #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    You need to have a drive letter assigned to the EFI System Partition. We did Z: drive in my earlier instructions, so I am going to use Z: drive. In EasyBCD you want to click File -> Select BCD Store. Then open Z:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot and the BCD file there.
    Did that and I saw the Windows 7 entry. Did an exit from EasyBCD and then launched it again and the Windows 7 entry has disappeared! Do I need to save it, if so how?. Must hit the sack but will be back tomorrow.
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  9.    29 Jun 2017 #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolly1959 View Post
    Did that and I saw the Windows 7 entry. Did and exit from EasyBCD and then launched it again and the Windows 7 entry has disappeared! Do I need to save it. Must hit the sack but will be back tomorrow.
    Yeah the same thing happened to me. I found the answer. And it's fairly easy. The only requirement is that your hard drive must not have any unallocated space on it when you start. If it doesn't then just add a dummy partition to whatever free space is there to get the drive 100% partitioned with no free space. Now, on my computer, I am booted into Windows 10. C: drive is Windows 10. G: drive is Windows 7. In the commands that follow, change the drive letters accordingly - but G: is probably the only one you might have to change. Also, my EFI system partition is Partition number 2. Again, you want to select the EFI System Partition, so change the number 2 if you have to. First delete the EFI System Partition using MiniTool Partition Wizard Free:

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    Click apply. Now the only unallocated space on the hard drive should be the space that was the EFI System Partition. Now, open a Command Prompt (Admin) and run the following commands (the commands are in bold):

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.15063]
    (c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    C:\Windows\system32>diskpart
    
    Microsoft DiskPart version 10.0.15063.0
    
    Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.
    On computer: MAIN-DESKTOP
    
    DISKPART> list disk
    
      Disk ###  Status         Size     Free     Dyn  Gpt
      --------  -------------  -------  -------  ---  ---
      Disk 0    Online          232 GB   100 MB        *
      Disk 1    Online          931 GB  1536 MB        *
    
    DISKPART> select disk 0
    
    Disk 0 is now the selected disk.
    
    DISKPART> list part
    
      Partition ###  Type              Size     Offset
      -------------  ----------------  -------  -------
      Partition 1    Recovery           450 MB  1024 KB
      Partition 3    Reserved            16 MB   551 MB
      Partition 4    Primary            172 GB   567 MB
      Partition 5    Primary             60 GB   172 GB
    
    DISKPART> create part EFI
    
    DiskPart succeeded in creating the specified partition.
    
    DISKPART> list part
    
      Partition ###  Type              Size     Offset
      -------------  ----------------  -------  -------
      Partition 1    Recovery           450 MB  1024 KB
    * Partition 2    System             100 MB   451 MB
      Partition 3    Reserved            16 MB   551 MB
      Partition 4    Primary            172 GB   567 MB
      Partition 5    Primary             60 GB   172 GB
    
    DISKPART> format fs=fat32 quick
    
      100 percent completed
    
    DiskPart successfully formatted the volume.
    
    DISKPART> assign letter=z
    
    DiskPart successfully assigned the drive letter or mount point.
    
    DISKPART> exit
    
    Leaving DiskPart...
    
    C:\Windows\system32>bootsect /nt60 Z: /force
    Target volumes will be updated with BOOTMGR compatible bootcode.
    
    Z: (\\?\Volume{1096fa0a-2137-40f6-ac37-694bb2df904e})
    
        Successfully updated FAT32 filesystem bootcode.
    
    Bootcode was successfully updated on all targeted volumes.
    
    C:\Windows\system32>bcdboot G:\Windows /s z: /f UEFI
    Boot files successfully created.
    
    C:\Windows\system32>bcdboot C:\Windows
    Boot files successfully created.
    
    C:\Windows\system32>exit
    Cross your fingers and toes and restart your computer.

    If you want to change the timeout, the command is:
    bcdedit /timeout 5
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  10.    30 Jun 2017 #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Yeah the same thing happened to me. I found the answer. And it's fairly easy. The only requirement is that your hard drive must not have any unallocated space on it when you start. If it doesn't then just add a dummy partition to whatever free space is there to get the drive 100% partitioned with no free space. Now, on my computer, I am booted into Windows 10. C: drive is Windows 10. G: drive is Windows 7. In the commands that follow, change the drive letters accordingly - but G: is probably the only one you might have to change. Also, my EFI system partition is Partition number 2. Again, you want to select the EFI System Partition, so change the number 2 if you have to. First delete the EFI System Partition using MiniTool Partition Wizard Free:
    Should the line in bold in your quoted text read as follows:

    If it does then just add a dummy partition to whatever unallocated space is there to get the drive 100% partitioned with no free space.

    My disk has no unallocated space but does have free space in all but one partition. You would of course expect to see free space In your Windows 10 & 7 partitions.

    See my partition disk as it is now. Windows 10 is the C: partition and Windows 7 is the D: partition.

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    Need to disappear for a while. Be back later.
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