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  1.    03 Jun 2017 #41
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    Partition your drive and try Linux.
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  2.    03 Jun 2017 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josey Wales View Post
    Partition your drive and try Linux.
    I have tried Linux more than once. The point is to find a solution, not to make things worse.

    After decades of Windows I am too old to learn everything from scratch, look for equivalent apps, etc. I leave this to young guys.
    Life is too short.
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  3.    03 Jun 2017 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by oao View Post
    No, not every license: an XP license requires a $200 expenditure on a Win10Pro license.

    There is NO intelligence in any version from 1607 on -- it's a disaster area and anybody who thinks otherwise does not understand what an OS is. It is not a platform for MS to force faulty updates and frequent useless updates on users; it is not a platform for entertainment; it is not a platform for spying; it is not a platform for monetizing advertising. The new versions offer NO useful improvements over Win7 and exist only for the interests of MS, not users. What you are advising here would have been reasonably correct before Win10, but is no more.

    You're entitled to your notion of what is intelligent, I am to mine. Don't censure what can and cannot be discussed this based on your notion. I am entitled to discuss here whatever I want and you are entitled to respond what you want and ignore it. So please--no dictatorship.

    There is absolutely nothing for me in Win10 that I did not have in Win7. But my win7 computer croaked and the new one I got had 1511 on it -- it was not my choice. I was able to configure, customize and optimize it to my liking and make it look like 7. I cleaned all the useless but resource consuming bloat. I want to to keep it this way and not let MS decide what will run or not run on my computer. I also have scripts, utilities and methods to clean the bloat that will not work on later versions e.g., I completely eliminated Cortana and Edge and I don't want to see them again. Everything will return for any later version.

    As to fear from damage, anybody who follows MS's updates and upgrades knows that they are more dangerous than hackers -- they just messed up phones and computers with 2 faulty updates. I practice safe computing and I take frequent backups. This is much, much safer than WIn10 updates and fixes, who normally lag hackers anyway.

    Anybody who does not understand all this does not know enough about computing to advise others.
    So you do your intelligent way and I'll do mine and don't patronize. Did I now answer your question?

    There is absolutely nothing for me in Win10 that I did not have in Win7. But my win7 computer croaked and the new one I got had 1511 on it -- it was not my choice. I was able to configure, customize and optimize it to my liking and make it look like 7. I cleaned all the useless but resource consuming bloat. I want to to keep it this way and not let MS decide what will run or not run on my computer. I also have scripts, utilities and methods to clean the bloat that will not work on later versions e.g., I completely eliminated Cortana and Edge and I don't want to see them again. Everything will return for any later version.
    The above is totally wrong. Build 14393 is not bloated and you can do what yo did with 1511 Just use that tool and update to it and remove all you want. It is a solid OS and is bug free./
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  4.    03 Jun 2017 #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by oao View Post
    No, not every license: an XP license requires a $200 expenditure on a Win10Pro license.

    There is NO intelligence in any version from 1607 on -- it's a disaster area and anybody who thinks otherwise does not understand what an OS is. It is not a platform for MS to force faulty updates and frequent useless updates on users; it is not a platform for entertainment; it is not a platform for spying; it is not a platform for monetizing advertising. The new versions offer NO useful improvements over Win7 and exist only for the interests of MS, not users. What you are advising here would have been reasonably correct before Win10, but is no more.

    You're entitled to your notion of what is intelligent, I am to mine. Don't censure what can and cannot be discussed this based on your notion. I am entitled to discuss here whatever I want and you are entitled to respond what you want and ignore it. So please--no dictatorship.

    There is absolutely nothing for me in Win10 that I did not have in Win7. But my win7 computer croaked and the new one I got had 1511 on it -- it was not my choice. I was able to configure, customize and optimize it to my liking and make it look like 7. I cleaned all the useless but resource consuming bloat. I want to to keep it this way and not let MS decide what will run or not run on my computer. I also have scripts, utilities and methods to clean the bloat that will not work on later versions e.g., I completely eliminated Cortana and Edge and I don't want to see them again. Everything will return for any later version.

    As to fear from damage, anybody who follows MS's updates and upgrades knows that they are more dangerous than hackers -- they just messed up phones and computers with 2 faulty updates. I practice safe computing and I take frequent backups. This is much, much safer than WIn10 updates and fixes, who normally lag hackers anyway.

    Anybody who does not understand all this does not know enough about computing to advise others.
    So you do your intelligent way and I'll do mine and don't patronize. Did I now answer your question?
    You basically need some help but you refused to accept. We don't encourage staying with unsupported Windows version unless you use your machine to play Minesweeper only.
    You are creating your own problem by refusing to accept the latest updates. Staying with Windows 7-like environment will not make your life easier. Otherwise, you won't be popping up these questions. My suggestion for you is to go back to Windows 7 because for sure it will be supported far longer than version 1511 of Windows 10.
    Unsubscribing....
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  5.    03 Jun 2017 #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by oao View Post
    The point is to find a solution, not to make things worse.
    After decades of Windows I am too old to learn everything from scratch, look for equivalent apps, etc. I leave this to young guys.
    Life is too short.
    Please oao, solutions have been mentioned so that things do not get worse. I also am an older fella and certainly not a young guy. I had to learn computers OTJ without any training umpteen years ago and am an intermediate user at best. I volunteer at our senior center and have had to rebuild 3 new Win10 computers because the owners didn't want change or accept the natural progression of the modern systems. Naturally it's your decision on how to want to manage your systems but you will reach a point of counter productivity: it's just a matter of time. I hope you can tell I'm not trying to force anything on you (and neither is any one else) and am attempting to politely promote using your computers in their natural state. Yes there are personal tweaks to adjust in the beginning but just as you have your methods, I do so according to my methods also. Fortunately even as an older person, my Win10 computers run excellently and MSFT WU's and other new items do not hinder me from enjoying my computers. Well I guess I'm stretching my story now but in the end, I just want to wish good luck on your computer usage.
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  6.    03 Jun 2017 #46
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    trying to install win10

    In addition to the post by NavyLcdr ( who appears to be the only one that attempted to answer your question ), there is another way.

    If you have a win7/8/8.1 key, Iirc they are accepted by 1511 installation media.
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  7.    03 Jun 2017 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    In addition to the post by NavyLcdr ( who appears to be the only one that attempted to answer your question ), there is another way.

    If you have a win7/8/8.1 key, Iirc they are accepted by 1511 installation media.
    Yes, I am aware of that, except that it must be Pro as I need to install 1511 Pro. This won't work with XP--it will require buying a Win10Pro license. Which means that I must buy a system that either has a 7/8 Pro and hope that the install is still free; or, safer, an activated 10Pro.
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  8.    03 Jun 2017 #48
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    trying to install win10

    You may be able to get 8 Pro key cheaply. A lot of us bought several when there was an intro offer, think it was $30 or might have been $25, can't recall exactly.
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  9.    03 Jun 2017 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You may be able to get 8 Pro key cheaply. A lot of us bought several when there was an intro offer, think it was $30 or might have been $25, can't recall exactly.
    Thanks, but since I am buying a used system and many of them come with 10Pro installed, I won't need to buy a license. I will use the machine's one to install 1511Pro.
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  10.    03 Jun 2017 #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    In addition to the post by NavyLcdr ( who appears to be the only one that attempted to answer your question ), there is another way.

    If you have a win7/8/8.1 key, Iirc they are accepted by 1511 installation media.
    I answered his question on the second post but it does not matter as the OP will not listen to anyone Even NavyLcdr
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