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  1. Posts : 3,449
       #21

    pparks1 said:
    Well, Microsoft has flip flopped numerous times on the OEM licensing. I know that it was ok in XP, Windows 7 and Windows 8. But it's not OK in Vista, and 8.1. I did some reading today on 10 and it seems that it's not allowed on 10 either.
    Overall, I would think people on an enthusiast board would want the retail license, for the simple fact that they will most likely upgrade, and build a new PC and would most likely want to move that OS from the old computer to the new.
    Yip..I'm not all that clued up re: Vista but since Win8 there were some drastic changes...

    To be fair it was correct as the intention of OEM is for re-sale, just the execution in MS' delivery is lacking...
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  2. Posts : 2,068
    Windows 10 Pro
       #22

    Yeah, but MS is pretty clear again that OEM/SystemBuilder is not intended for personal use. Unless you are building the machine to sell to another party and continue to support, you should NOT be purchasing the OEM/SystemBuilder license.
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  3. Posts : 14,600
    Windows 10 IoT
       #23

    pparks1 said:
    Yeah, but MS is pretty clear again that OEM/SystemBuilder is not intended for personal use. Unless you are building the machine to sell to another party and continue to support, you should NOT be purchasing the OEM/SystemBuilder license.
    No way to enforce it though. Install, enter key, activate, use. Those copies were to easy to buy too. I bought my Windows 7 OEM from Tiger Direct, no questions asked. I didn't even have to buy any other hardware with it. Same deal for NewEgg etc. I keep my hardware for a long time so I wasn't going to transferring be it to another PC. And it was lot cheaper than buying the full retail. << The usual reason people chose it over Retail version.
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  4. Posts : 17,361
    Windows 11 Pro
       #24

    And the thing is, the exact reason why an OEM license is cheaper is because Microsoft is under no obligation to provide any support for it at all. So there is no legitimate reason to complain about it when Microsoft refuses to provide support.
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  5. Posts : 14,600
    Windows 10 IoT
       #25

    Yep, buy OEM system builders and you are your tech support. Talking to yourself doesn't usually help though.
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  6. Posts : 3,449
       #26

    alphanumeric said:
    Yep, buy OEM system builders and you are your tech support. Talking to yourself doesn't usually help though.
    LOL...not that MS' outsourced support is worth paying for anyway...but transferability is.
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  7. Posts : 14,600
    Windows 10 IoT
       #27

    Transferability is likely the biggest reason somebody opts for full retail over OEM.
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  8. Posts : 17,361
    Windows 11 Pro
       #28

    But it's not like Microsoft strictly enforces non-transferabilty. Just look at what they opened up with linking digital licenses to Microsoft Accounts.
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  9. Posts : 14,600
    Windows 10 IoT
       #29

    True but that's only a recent change. It wasn't always that easy to transfer an OEM license. Doesn't seem to matter how you got a DL now. I don't think it matters if it was obtained from an OEM or Retail install, its just a DL. The Product ID might tell you but I don't know how you decode those? In the past it would have xxxxx-OEM-xxxx etc, but I don't think its like that now. Activation has had some big changes with Digital Licenses. And is still changing with the linked to your account stuff. It appears as though every PC gets a DL. The only exception would be Enterprise activated with a KMS key. One would hope KMS keys are excluded.
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    Windows 10 Pro on all on various machines version 21H2 and running Window 11 on one desktop without
    Thread Starter
       #30

    Microsoft has flip flopped numerous times
    Yep they have flipped ok in the wrong direction and if I knew then what I know now I would never have touched the 10 OEM and just installed it straight to this machine and then dual booted an ISO of my Home 7 to it afterwards.

    As I said Wonderful Microsoft and even more so after reading some of this rot today
    Microsoft adds another option to its complex Windows 10 patching story | ZDNet some extra links within it making for the folks with a PHd in gobbledegook forget the idiot plebs like myself
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