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  1. Posts : 19,240
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #11

    ICIT2LOL said:
    Funny you know I just tried buying a copy off EBay just to see what came up for $10.98 and this character set the download site and that original key it first went out with the one that ends *****-*****-*****-DV773-PYT6T and he reckons he buys the keys at wholesale prices from Microsoft LOL!!

    But jokes aside I do still resent them doing that to me because all he had to do was ask for the key and see how many tims it ha been activated and common sense might have kicked in - if there is such a thing anymore.

    Anyhow I downloaded that link and thought no I already have that ISO so stopped it and wrecked the 7 install so have had to start all over again - some silly old buggers never learn eh??

    At least Kaspersky has always let me activate without question on clean installs and he is a Russian business man if that goes anyway to answering my rant.
    With W10, MS has turned activation Topsy-turvy but Retail version is still best way to go specially now when you wouldn't have to by new one for years to come. I'm already on my third MB and W10 that I got as free upgrade from W8/8.1 which was bought at time when it was greatly discounted as an upgrade from W7. All activation went thru without a hitch and W7 that I had was a gift from local MS office for some non-IT services rendered. All together, this OS has cost me about 14 bucks all told. Office 2013 was bought for me by a customer (a print shop) to do some work for them during 6 month so that payed of handsomely too.
    I may be a lousy salesman but I'm great buyer. Most companies I worked for gave me open account to buy anything for maintenance and production, saved them a lot of money.
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  2. Posts : 9,497
    Windows 10 Pro on all on various machines version 21H2 and running Window 11 on one desktop without
    Thread Starter
       #12

    Yep I should have in hindsight Mike registered this machine with that upgrade stuff though I think I would have only got Home not the Pro as I use Home Premium on most of the machines I've built.
    No worries if that EBay deal is rubbish not much lost and I shall report to EBay if it goes south and I certainly will not be using this drive - just a spare 250GB I will do a quick 7 install then make a partition for the 10 and install on it and see what happens probably nothing but have got to have something to play with
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  3. Posts : 11,206
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #13

    Hi there

    in EEA and EU countries (and others I suppose must have a similar consumer protection Law) is that if you pay with a CREDIT CARD for goods AND SERVICES they must be fit for purpose and do what they are supposed to do.

    You should be able to get the money returned back to your card -- and by law - at least here - the BANK must refund the card even if the original seller can't or wont.

    I know a lot of people are dubious about using Credit Cards for online purchases but using them safely gives you quite a decent amount of protection.

    Note the same protection does NOT apply to debit cards -- always amazing how the laws always seem to benefit the better off (I assume that in general the poorer members of society don't have or use Credit cards !!).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. Posts : 9,497
    Windows 10 Pro on all on various machines version 21H2 and running Window 11 on one desktop without
    Thread Starter
       #14

    but using them safely gives you quite a decent amount of protection
    If only I had used one Jimbo

    It doesn't end there either my Ivy looks like she is goig south now
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  5. Posts : 73
    win 10
       #15

    As you are a longstanding member of this site may i ask why you bought OEM ?
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  6. Posts : 19,240
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #16

    tonez said:
    As you are a longstanding member of this site may i ask why you bought OEM ?
    What do you think ? It's cheaper ! Problem is that MS ha stopped selling W7 and I think W8/8.1 too. To buy W7 one has to buy it from somebody MS already sold it and all obligations for it's proper function are transferred to that person/organization for installation to computer he is selling or assembling. That seller is solely responsible for it. Any beef may be between that seller and the buyer who bought from him. If for instance that disk is damaged or otherwise not usable you have to take it with seller and they can take it up with MS.
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  7. Posts : 9,497
    Windows 10 Pro on all on various machines version 21H2 and running Window 11 on one desktop without
    Thread Starter
       #17

    As you are a longstanding member of this site may i ask why you bought OEM ?
    Out of pure curiosity my friend and if this char cater is a a ratbag then I shall report him.

    No one in their right mind would fall for that to be honest we shall see if indeed he has crawled out from under a rock because as I think I said I recognised that key as soon as I saw it and he could be Microsofts CEO's son for all I know.
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  8. Posts : 2,068
    Windows 10 Pro
       #18

    tonez said:
    As you are a longstanding member of this site may i ask why you bought OEM ?
    I have purchased OEM and Systems Builders licenses for my machines. I'm a long time member of this site, as well as 8 forums and 7 forums.

    In fact, i still have a Windows 7 OEM license that is brand new at home. I was in the process of building my machine, bought Windows 7 Pro OEM, then went to a Windows 7 event hosted by Microsoft and scored a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate with a key. So, I used that copy and never touched the OEM license that I bought.
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  9. Posts : 3,449
       #19

    OEM System builder licence terms have changed significantly since Win 7 regarding personal use.


    The problem, as I see it, is that it's sold as if retail .. few read the small print.

    These licences should, IMHO, be sold exclusively through the partner network.
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  10. Posts : 2,068
    Windows 10 Pro
       #20

    Superfly said:
    OEM System builder licence terms have changed significantly since Win 7 regarding personal use.
    Well, Microsoft has flip flopped numerous times on the OEM licensing. I know that it was ok in XP, Windows 7 and Windows 8. But it's not OK in Vista, and 8.1. I did some reading today on 10 and it seems that it's not allowed on 10 either.

    Overall, I would think people on an enthusiast board would want the retail license, for the simple fact that they will most likely upgrade, and build a new PC and would most likely want to move that OS from the old computer to the new.


    The problem, as I see it, is that it's sold as if retail .. few read the small print.

    These licences should, IMHO, be sold exclusively through the partner network.[/QUOTE]
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