Why would a new Laptop have an upgraded version of Windows 10? Solved

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  1.    20 Mar 2017 #11

    Why not see how many hours are on the hard drive via SMART parameters? Will give you an idea of how much usage the device really has.
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  2.    20 Mar 2017 #12

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Instead of messing around trying to clean up what is there, why not just clean install Windows 10?
    Not my machine. If were mine I would do that right off.
    I suggested it once to her. No sale.

    Again, I'd just like to figure out why. I'll clean it up regardless.
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  3.    20 Mar 2017 #13

    simpk5 said: View Post
    Why not see how many hours are on the hard drive via SMART parameters? Will give you an idea of how much usage the device really has.
    Good suggestion!
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       20 Mar 2017 #14

    TV2 said: View Post
    Not my machine. If were mine I would do that right off.
    I suggested it once to her. No sale.

    Again, I'd just like to figure out why. I'll clean it up regardless.

    We really have no idea why, you should contact the seller, as suggested.
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  5.    20 Mar 2017 #15

    In BIOS:
    Born on date: 3/18/2017 - the day I took it out of the box.
    Factory Installed OS: Win10
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       20 Mar 2017 #16

    TV2 said: View Post
    ... a brand new, current model, HP Pavilion laptop here.
    On the C drive I see a Windows.old folder and Windows10Upgrade assistant folder.

    It seems as though they loaded an old version of Windows 10 (or previous Windows version) at the factory and upgraded it to the current version (Version 1607).

    Why would they do it this way? Isn't that terribly inefficient?
    TV2 said: View Post
    I didn't buy it. I think she got it from an Amazon reseller. Came in an HP box.
    This is more of a curiosity than a problem...
    How: If you take a brand new system that had 1607 on it from new, then click 'Update now' here...
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10
    ...it will run the upgrade assistant to reinstall the same version, making a windows.old in the process.

    Why: who knows, but it's not really 'brand new' any more - it would be better described as 'refurbished'.
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       20 Mar 2017 #17

    I would just make sure it`s fully updated and then delete the windows.old folder.

    Use Disk Cleanup as Admin and click Clean up system files.
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       20 Mar 2017 #18

    AddRAM said: View Post
    I would just make sure it`s fully updated and then delete the windows.old folder.

    Use Disk Cleanup as Admin and click Clean up system files.
    Think he's been thru all that.

    Why would a new Laptop have an upgraded version of Windows 10?
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       20 Mar 2017 #19

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    @TV2,

    If it came from a re-seller from Amazon, they may have taken a new HP (as in not previously sold), ran it thru the Update process, and never cleaned it up. Could also be refurbished by the re-seller and upgraded. Suggest you make a complete image backup as is, then run Disk Cleanup on it. That will preserve the original, and get rid of the Windows.old. It may not delete the Assistant, but that can be deleted manually.

    TC
    I NEVER buy ANY Computers, Drives, etc. from Amazon. Most listed as "NEW", sold by third party seller are almost all used, old or refurbished "junk". Just read the REVIEWS of the product, look at the one star reviews. Some seller had the guts to sell a "used" 500 GB HDD with a label slapped on it reading 4 TB. Also, beware of China Clones.
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  10.    20 Mar 2017 #20

    OK, some info.

    I checked out the HP Forum and there are a LOT of questions about that windows.old folder.
    So I think this is an HP "thing".
    Sage advice from HP: If you are happy with Windows 10, delete the folder.
    Thanks.

    My pure speculation:
    I know that PC manufacturers use a disk image to batch load hard drives for any particular model. They are not going to pay some dude to sit and clean install the OS on each machine.
    So I'm thinking they haven't gotten around (at HP) to updating their licensed image file. Probably still using the original version 15xx OS.
    They set up the Upgrade Assistant software so the OS updates on first start (maybe?).
    That might explain why "installing updates" took over an hour when I first started it up and went through the initial setup screens.

    Feel free to tell me I'm nuts.
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